KeRwin……it dosent matter who captivated the man he is still held in captivite rather by his flesh or by the spirit of God, or his own spirit, make no difference he still is does not have a will that is free, while he is not free. Again as i have said all along here, you guys are confusing GOD ALLOWING US TO EXCERCISE OUR “CAPTIVATED” WILLS…[Read more]

KeRwin……it dosent matter who captivated the man he is still held in captivite rather by his flesh or bythe spirit of God, or his own spirit,make bno difference he still is does not have a will that is free while he is not free. Again as i have said all along here you confusing GOD ALLOWING US TO EXCERCISE OUR CAPTIVATED WILLS AS THE WILL ITSEL…[Read more]

Wakeup…..NONE DID ANSWER, SO MUCH FOR FREEWILLS RIGHT THEY dont work because NONE ANSWERED GOD’S CALL.

Therefore it say ,GOD TOOK IT UPON HIS “OWN” ARM TO BRING SALVATION. I DO NOT SEE ANY SO-CALLED FREEWILL CHOICE CHOSING TO ANSWER GOD,DO YOU?

peace and love to you and yours……………..gene

T8……i have called on God many times and he has helped me many times, you don’t get it, you admit it is The spirit, to you just gives us the options, that is where you are wrong, it is tbe SPIRIT OF GOD THAT “CAUSES” US TO WILL AND DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE. YOU are so concienced it is yourself that saves you, you can’t see it is GOD ALONE THAT…[Read more]

Carmillia…….You hit the nail on the head sis, it about knowing GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS and the greatest things that now abides are, FAITH, HOPE AND LOVE , and indeed LOVE is the GREATEST. JESUS told us this in Luke,

LUKE 6:35……”But love your enimies, and do good and lend, hoping for nothing again; and you reward shall be great in…[Read more]

Kerwn…..I HAVE SAID THAT FROM THE BEGINNING that i was not talking about our liberty to express or excercise our “CAPTIVATED” WILLS. I AM SPEAKING OF WHAT MAKES UP THE WILL ITSELF, OF A PERSON , and that it is far from being FREE, it never was and it will never be either.

I can’t understand why you AND OTHERS would not have known that…[Read more]

T8…..O REALLY, ….Paul sure did not think that, read Rom 7:14-24 solwely this time and think clearly about what he is saying, he sure did not think his will was FREE at all, but bound by lusts and desires working in him bringing him into a state of captivity, he was harhly free nor was his will it self free either.

peace and love to you…[Read more]

Kerwin……Again you are addressing a will, that not the point here, we indeed are held responsible for our choices, i never said we weren’t. But those choices have nothing to do with a will that is Free, But a will that is held captive by whats working AND “CAUSING” THOSE CHOICES. The reason you do not acknowledge what PAUL CLEARLY…[Read more]

Kerwin……lets listen to what the apostle PAUL SAID, please try to understand exactly what he is saying, as quoting these over and over is tiring.

Rom 7 :14-25..> for we know that the law is spritual; but i am carnal,sold under sin.

Do you understand that Kerwin, sold under sin means he is held captive to sin.

Verse 15….> for that which I…[Read more]

Kerwin……i have never said God sinned,but he did show what sin was , SIN IS TO MISS THE MARK, THAT GOD HAS SET, SCRIPTURE ALSO SAY SIN IS THE TRANGRESSION OF THE LAW. And no man has not sinned except JESUS. SO all have missed the mark of the high calling, so-much for freewill right, none could chose what is right, at least thats what God the…[Read more]

T8……Is that right, then why did God say “HE” WOULD TAKE OUT OF US THE HEARTS OF STONE AND “GIVE” a soft heart ans write his statues and law on our inward part. After all don’t you believe it all up to us to chose by our own so-called freewills. Seems you have a dilemma to deal with.

Did you ever check out your fellow countrymans views about…[Read more]

Wakeup……Have you ever thought that the women in revelations with the twelve stars was a depiction of the nation of ISRAEL. ISRAEL had twelve tribes, and JESUS came forth from the tribe of JUDAH, which is one of the tribes 12 tribes of ISRAEL, the one that brought forth the man child JESUS.

JUST throwing this out there, not saying it is…[Read more]

Kerwin, yes and JESUS SAID “NO” MAN “CAN” COME UNTO HIM UNLESS GOD “DRAW/DRAG HIM.

DOES THIS NOT PROVE MY POINT, not even to mention the many many other scriptures that gack this up, scriptures like “IT IS NOT WITHIN A MAN TO DRECT HIS STEPS, and again, IT IS NOT OF HIM THAT “WILLS”, BUT OF GOD THAT SHOWS MERCY. And again FOR YOU ARE “CREATED”…[Read more]

Kerwin……Man was not created as a gun, but man does do what is in him, if this is not the case then tell us why this scripture exists.

“FOR I WILL TAKE OUT OF THEM THE HEART OF STONE AND GIVE THEM A SOFT HEART, ANDI WILL WRITE MY LAWS IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE AND I THEIR GOD”.

Why would God have to even do that if…[Read more]

Kerwin……You understand them differently ,because of your mind set, if you were open to the truth about this subject, you could easely see that those scriptures speak clearly against any, so-called free will, now notice i did not say againt a will, i said against a will, that itself is free, and therefore SOVERIGN in all things it choses.

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T8……First of all God did not prevent them, but he did sure command them not to. Now did EVE eat of her own freewill, no she was coursed to by the serpent, would they have, had the serpent not been there, proberly, Satan was just a catalyst causing the reaction quicker then it would normally would have happened, why, because that propensity…[Read more]

Kerwin….repent means to change you views which changes your ways, every error needs to be corrected, that is consistent with all scripture. There exists right, and there exists wrong, wrong need to be corrected. Jesus said “to him that overcomes” right?, but did he tell us how? Do you think its by our own so-called freewill choices?, or that he…[Read more]

Kerwin….repent means to change you views which changes your ways, ever error needs to be corrected, that is consistent with all scripture. There is exists right, and there exists wrong, wrong need to be corrected. Jesus said tohim that overcomes right, but did he tell us how? Do you think its by our own so-called freewill, or he overcame byhis…[Read more]

T8……HERE is another of your countryman …..GOD’S GOLDEN KNIGHT……. check him out , while i do not agree with everythig he says,but i do agree with his understanding about a so-called freewwill. Maybe he can enlighten you. Hope so.

Peace and love to you and yours. …………..gene

Kerwin……being accountable for sin, would mean no sin could ever be forgiven, but God has concluded ALL UNDER sin, that he may have mercy unto ALL. Were all being held accountble for sin, is because we all have sinned, and come short ofthe glory of GOD. SIN IS A STATE OF CAPTIVITY OF THE MIND, NOTHING FREE ABOUT IT, we must be delievered from…[Read more]