Terricca…….THEY ARE THE “FALSE” GOD’S, PEOPLE HAVE CREATED IN THEIR MINDES. THERE IS “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD. GOD HIMSELF SAID THER WERE “NO” OTHER GOD’S, HE EVEN SAID HE LOOKED FOR ONE AND FOUND NONE, DOESEN’T THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? You say you go by the word of God, but then you deny his very own words. We need to put all the scriptures…[Read more]

Waheup…..THOSE SCRIPTURES WERE TALKING TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL WHICH EXISTED AT THAT TIME. That prophesy is not talking about the church, you are directing the text to speak to someone it is not speaking to , and you are directing it to the wrong place. You can make many scriptures speak to and say something to what they are not truly directed…[Read more]

T8…My touchy responce has nothing with you hitting a nerve, it has to do with your arogant remarks. The answer to you questin is, Yes he did, now what that got to do with the will working in the man? Liberty to excercise a will does not make the will itself free of what is ifluencing it and Causing it.

peace and love to you and yours.…[Read more]

T8…Yes he did, now what that got to do with the will in the man? Liberty to excercise a will does not make the will itself free of what is ifluencing it and Causing it.

peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

Terricca……I do not believe i am to smart for you, that simply is not true, i never thought that. What i will say though, is your just not being open minded to anything we say. Thats not our fault, we want to dialoge with you, but you start to personally attack us, when we disagree with you and present our views, then you ridclue us by saying…[Read more]

Terricca……I do not believe i am to smart for you, that simply is not true, i never thought that. What i will say though is your just not being open minded to anything we say. Thats not our fault, we want to dialoge with you, but you start to personally attack us when we disagree with you and present our views, then you ridclue us by say we are…[Read more]

Terricca……The Israelites brought all kinds of God’s with them when they left Egypt, they even made to themselves one of gold, a golden calf when Moses when up to get the ten commandments, these people actually believed in those false God’s, this is what i believe THE LORD OUR GOD was addressing when he made that statement. If you understood…[Read more]

Kerwin……that is all i have ever said. And if the choice is Caused, then the will is also caused, the only thing that is not Caused by us, is the freedom to express our Caused wills. My point is and was the Term a freewill, is an Oxymoron,why?, because there exists no such thing as a will that “ITSELF” is “FREE”, REMEMBER I SAID OVER AND OVER I…[Read more]

Kerwin……that is all i have ever said. And ifthe choice is Caused, then the will is also caused, and the only thing that is not Caused , is the freedom to express our Caused wills. My point is and was the Term a freewill, is an Oxymoron, because there exists no such thing as a freewill “ITSELF”, REMEMBER I SAID OVER AND OVER I WAS NEVER TALKING…[Read more]

Kerwin,i have never said we couldn’t choose for ourselves, that is no the question i was dealing woth, it is what drives or created that choice. If you wanted to jump of the empire state building you could or drive your car to the store, or shoot someone, or be a sucide bomber. I understand that completely. But i was never talking about our…[Read more]

Lightenup……i know i am sticking my nose in here, but i would just like to say , i see it the same way as bodhitharta does. I also believe that there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD. PLEASE OPEN YOU MIND TO WHAT HE IS PUTTING FORTH IT IS TRUE on this subject. IMO

peace and love to you and yours……………..gene

Terricca…….why get all upset because you can’ have your own way, look all of us have a right here to believe and express our beliefs, even you also, but when you don’t get your way , you start criticizing and then labeling us, accusing us of being liars, devils, etc. All the time not understanding that is exactly what satan himself does,…[Read more]

Kerwin…… no will does not mean choice, choice is the result of a formed will. Let me see if i can better explaine it, i first am in my mind caused by veryious things (ie spirits) working in me to desire something, this drives or forms my will, and Then i chose it and them i make the move or action.

While i am free to make the action, which…[Read more]

TERRICCA….. KERWIN IS RIGHT YOUR GETTING OFF TOPICE AGAIN, BUT TO TRY TO HELP YOU I WILL SIMPLY QUOTE WHAT OUR ONLY “TRUE” GOD SAID, if you want me to i can get all the scriptures i over and over quoted here whare GOD HIMSELF SAID THERE WERE NO OTHER GODS BESIDE HIM, NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE First of the ten commandments. I get sick and tired of…[Read more]

Kerwin…..I know we have freedom to excercise our “captivated” wills, i have never said we didn’t, i am talking about the actual will “ITSELF”, WHAT MAKES IT UP OR FORMS IT, because what makes it up or forms it is exactly what it is. Our wills are “CAUSED” BE WHAT THEY ARE, I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT IT TO YOU MORE CLEARLY THEN THAT…[Read more]

Kerwin…..No, a free-will (itself) does not exist, your not understanding, i am not talking about the freeedom we have to express or excercise our WILL, I AM “NOT” TALKING ABOUT THAT. I HAVE SAID THAT OVER A HUNDRED TIMES, I am talking about the very will “ITSELF”. ITS VERY MAKE UP, WHAT CAUSES IT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS KERWIN?

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Terricca……NO NOT JUST MIGHTY ONE,BUT MIGHTY ONE WE “LEAN ON AND “TRUST IN. IS THE TRUE MEANING OF THE WORD GOD YOUR ONLY USING HALF THE MEANING. Listen CLEARLY, there is no such thing as a big God and a little God, the original scriptures you quoted SHOULD not BE READ like God is the God OF god’s, is INCORRECTLY translated that way, it SHOULD…[Read more]

Terricca…….listen cleqrly, there is no such thing as a big God and a little God, the original scriptures you quoted like God is the GOD OF god, is incorect translated it shpuld be written God is the God of God’s.

All original scriptures were written in upper case letters. So who decided there are big God’s and little gods, only people who…[Read more]

T8…… OK, THIS is my first question to you, Do you even know how a will is formed or if it is formed, YES OR NO OR DON’T KNOW.?, this would be a good start IMO.

Next question……What is your perception of what a will is, do you belive a will is the product of something, or is just there “freely” existing by itself in eveyone, YES OR NO OR…[Read more]

T8…..YES…> God did tell man they could eat freely of any tree in the guarden, except one. So whats that got to do about describing what a will is.

And NO HE DID NOT CREATE MAN WITH A FREEWILL, or he could do nothing and nothing could effect his will because the will it self would remain free of any influence, if that were the case. A will…[Read more]