Nick……Is this my mouth or the Fathers mouth speaking.

Isa 44:6….Thus says the LORD the King of Isreal, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last, and “BESIDE ME”, THERE IS “NO” GOD.

Isa 44:8….Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are my witnesses. Is…[Read more]

Nick……Is this my mouth or the Fathers mouth speaking.

Isa 46:6….Thus says the LORD the King of Isreal, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last, and “BESIDE ME”, THERE IS “NO” GOD.

Isa 44:8….Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are my witnesses. Is…[Read more]

Lu…..NO, the subject matter there, about the son being begotten from the state of the dead, is not about the son prexisting as a living being before, your mixing subject matters, it was about him comming forth from a dead state to a live one, its not about him being begotten into a different being, the subject matter was the son was then…[Read more]

Lu…… SORRY ABOUT THE MIXUP, JESUS IS THE FIRST “BEGOTTEN” FROM THE DEAD, TO ETERNAL LIFE, THAT IS A “PAST” TENSE EXPRESSION, it is not saying, JESUS is the first be-getting from the dead, now does it? If it said that, then JESUS WOULD STILL BE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BE-GOTTEN. BE-GETTING IS THE PROCESS, BE-GOT IS AFTER THE PROCESS HAS TAKEN…[Read more]

Lu…… SORRY ABOUT THE MIXUP, JESUS IS THE FIRST “BEGOTTEN” FROM THE DEAD, TO ETERNAL LIFE, THAT IS A “PAST” TENSE EXPRESSION, it is not saying, JESUS is the first be-getting from the dead, now does it? If it said that, then JESUS WOULD STILL BE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BE-GOTTEN. BE-GETTING IS THE PROCESS, BE-GOT IS AFTER THE PROCESS HAS TAKEN…[Read more]

Kerwin……COMON SENSE 101…..if that God who said he looked for other gods and found “NONE” THAT LEAVESONLY ONE OTHER OPTION THOSE gods of the other nations are “FALSE” GOD’S. IF Jesus in PRAYER said “THOU ARE THE ONLY “TRUE” GOD, THEN ALL OTHERS ARE “not’ “TRUE” GOD’S. My question to you is why not believe JESUS AND GOD THE FATHER, even if you…[Read more]

LU…….No you have it wrong i believe, jesus was not begotten from the dead he was “resuected from the dead, the process of begetting takes place at conception, begetting is the process. Begot is the completion of the process. Here is an example, ADAM BEGOT Able, “WHEN” , was it not when he and Eve had sex, that was the be-“getting” process…[Read more]

LU…….No you have it wrong i believe, jesus was not begotten from the dead he was “resuected from the dead, the process of begetting takes place at conception, begetting is the process. Begot is the completion of the process. Here is an example, ADAM BEGOT Able, “WHEN” , was it not when he and Eve had sex, that was the be-“getting” process…[Read more]

LU…….No you have it wrong i believe, the process of begetting takes place at conception, begetting is the process. Begot is the completion of the process. Here is an example, ADAM BEGOT Able, “WHEN” , was it not when he and Eve had sex, that was the be-“getting” process and after he was BORN then he was the be-gotten son of Adam and Eve. The…[Read more]

Lu…..i understand that a human being begins life in the womb of his mother 9 months before he or she is born. What does that have to do with JESUS PREEXITING as another sentenial being, before his human existence? It takes the combination of male and female DNA TO Begin a new life form. No where does any scripture say JESUS WAS “MORPHED” FROM…[Read more]

Lu…..i understand that a human being begins life in the womb of his mother 9 months before he or she is born. What does that have to do with JESUS PREEXITING as another sentenial being, before his human existence? It takes the combination of male and female DNA TO Begin a new life form. No where does any scripture say JESUS WAS “MORPHED” FROM…[Read more]

Kerwin……please do not falsely qive an opinion of what i have said, no where did i say a human being can destory us, i said he can desrory the body,but not the spirit it goesback to the father who gave it in the first places, so the spirit still exists after a person dies, but that is not a “living soul” there is apsolutly not thinking going on…[Read more]

Kerwin……NO he is not supreme to all other “gods” , because he said he looked for other gods and found “none”, SO THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER GOD’S AT ALL, but you guys FIND all kind of what you believe are “true” gods, according to your words, but JESUS SAID THAT GOD THE FATHER IS THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, HE DID NOT SAY GOD WAS a supreme GOD, BUT…[Read more]

LU…… SORRY FOR THE MIX UP I WAS QUOTING THE VOICE OF GOD SAYING THIS IS MY BELOVED SON , HEAR HIM. At the mount of transfiguration, in MARK 9:7.

But that is not the point nor does it get rid of the OTHER TEXT THAT SAY , “THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU “. i realize you rather proceed with out even considering it, But it is twice explicitly…[Read more]

Kerwin……Yes GOD is a relative term, so we agree on that, but you say those relitave terms can represent a “true” GOD, AS IT MIGHT TO THOSE CONNECTED that way to that object , but is it a “true GOD Then in reality? , “NO” IT IS NOT TO ME OR GOD THE FATHER OR Jesus Christ. It is a “false” or untrue GOD. IMO

Peace and love to you and yours.…[Read more]

Kerwin……Go back and take an honest unbiased look at what i wrote ans show scriptures that dispeoves it. I don’t want to engage in further go no where dialogs with you, you must at least give what i am posting some honest evaluation. IMO

peace and love to you and yours. …………..gene

Nick…..So only you have a right to YOUR OPINIONS? IF YOU CAN FIND WHAT I POST IS IN ERROR THEN POST IT, ONE OR TWO WORD SLAMS ONLY SHOW YOUR CONTEMPT FOR OTHERS AND THE WORD OF GOD. IMO

peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

Kerwin…… The KEY IS THE WORD “SUPREME” VALUE. What does that meanto you?

peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

Kerwin…….read what i wrote right after your post on the dicitionay definition. You next post just buldosed ove what i said as if you did not even consider it. GO BACK AND REREAD IT AND THIS TIME THINK ABOUT WHAT I WAS SAYING, OK.

peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

Nick…..Those are you words not mine, please show where i limited GRACE, BY SAYING IT IS UNMERITED PARDON. In fact if you say it is not unmerited pardon you are yourself limiting GRACE to fit your theological dogmas.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene