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    To all……..Klaus Shwab,  is a false phophet, and teacher.  He has the time line of the return of God the Father mixed up with the return of Jesus Christ .  When Jesus returns, a CELESTRIAL event will take place that will take this whole world by suprise  .

    Luk 23:25-28…….“and there shallbe signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the sta…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……..Yea , Steven Meyer explains intellgent design very good , i herd some of his lectures a year or two ago, .

    Peace and love to you and yours……….gene

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    Carmel………Jodi just gave you your answer,  let it be mine also.

    Peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    To all……scripture says, (not me)…..“behold therefore the goodness and the severity of God; on them which fell, severity; but towards you goodness.” 

    Ye there is both goodness and severity with God.  When things get to a certain point , then there leaves no other options,  Mike exceed his posting rights , why should Mike let him bring th…[Read more]

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    Carmel, …..THE ANSWER IS “NO”,  BECAUSE ALL CREATION WOULD HAVE DIED , IF HE DID THAT.

    Scripture tell us ……. that, God upholds all the creation by the power of his might, so how could he do that if he were to die?  You point is mute, unless you have something else in mind. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Jodi……Preclaimer is right, stop and think when has Mike ever proved you wrong in your resent discussions,  while he made you dig dipper into subject matter,  he never admitted you were right, did he? Not matter how many scriptures you produced to prove him wrong.

    He simply deverted to another issue,   you yourself said , you have answered him…[Read more]

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    Danny,  Mike was banned completely Fairly ,  HE COULDN’T STOP PREACHING LIES.  After two years of that,  it was time to bury those false teachings of his,  it was bring this whole sit down,  and you seem to also be trying to do that.  Don’t let him use you to do his dirty work.

    Danny anyone who believes that this “EARTH IS FLAT”,  in todays…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….A  man who crys out , “my God , my God”,  hast thou forsaken me”  and then dies     is not a man with “any”  power.  In facr you completely miss the whole message of Jesus and his life, which was to show usxall his “FAITH’ and “TRUST” in GOD THE FATHER,  Lets face the truth Carmel,   you simply do not believe what Jesus says or said…[Read more]

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    Carmel….Are you able to just stay on one point at a time  instead of jumping all over the place confussing issues ? THE ANSWER to your statement that Jesus is just as great a God the Father is , is spoken by Jesus himself, (not me).  “my Father is greater then all”.    YOU TAKE that as Jesus saying ,  “my Father is greater then all except me” .…[Read more]

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    Jodi…….Good post . Please check on line the “21st Century Reformation”  site , And tell me what you think. 

    Peace and love to you and yours Jodi………gene

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    CARMEL you said,  COULD THE FATHER HIMSELF COME ON EARTH AS A HUMAN AND DO WHAT JESUS DID EVEN DIE?
    YES OR NO PLEASE!
    I said ,” he  (Jesus) ,  could not have “himself” Created anything” , why? Because He he couldn’t. You have ““cleverly” switched  subject matter from Jesus to God the Father…. So lets let scripture answer you OK?

    Sc…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer you said…….”Here we do indeed see that all was created for him. But it also says through him too. But you would have to say for him and for him making both words mean the same thing. And then this scripture doubles down with our view when it says ‘he is before all things”.

    Obviously you do not believe he is the Word of God like mos…[Read more]

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    To seening no body has come up with a different meaning i posted about the Greek  word “Dia” , i will assume you all agree with it, right? So with that understanding then , we know that God himself created everything that exists, for “the purpose of his plan for all humanity, the “Man” Jesus being the first human being, to achieve his planned g…[Read more]

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    Carmel……Yes i do keep repeating what Jesus said, (not me),  the question is do you “truly believe him,  and what he ‘actually’ says, Thats the question here Carmel. If you truly believed those words of his (not me),  then you would also understand he could not have “himself” Created anything , no more then you or i can. He was a real huma…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer, Carmel, Berean, and all, can we all agree that God had a “plan” in mind….. (a detaild purpose for doing something)  nothing he did or dose  is without a reason, and purpose,  Yes or No.  ?

    I am keeping this simple for now on purpose, can we all agree with the above, I am assuming you all will say,  yes , if not, please fill free…[Read more]

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    Admin……..Good call , no sense mixing up good and honest bibical dialog with Mikeboll’s “flat earth” garabage.

    Peace and love to you and yours………..gene

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    Proclaimer……..Your trip word is the word “through” and “by”   It comes from the Greek word “dia”,  which carries a completely different sense  then the English words do, you see it as meaning thats how the world and everythibg was actually created by,  but the Greek word “Dia” carries a difference sense, it carries the idea,  of the “reason fo…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……..So from that prespective, there are thousands of people named Gene right.,  are they also me, because after all we do have the same name right?  We call the bible the word of God, so according to your logic the book itself is God’s word, but is it?, no it contains God’s words, the book is just a book.

    Scripture say , (not m…[Read more]

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    Berean……..Jesus is called the word of God , because he “quotes” God the Fathers words to us, not because he “IS” ACTUALLY  God’s word.  If you “truly” believed him you would also believe what he said,   Jesus said (not me), ……“the words I am telling you “ARE NOT” my words, but the words of him that sent me.”   Do you “truly believe him?[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……….AMEN TO THAT.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………gene

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