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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Kerwin…….scripture shows plainly JESUS is the ACTUAL SON OF THE LIVING GOD, GOD SPIRIT OVER SHADOWED MARY. No what do you think was taking place then, was not a conception taking place in the womb of MARY? SCRIPTURE SAYS CLEARLY THAT Jesus is the “only” begotten son of GOD. THE WORD BEGOTTEN means he was a human born son, of GOD the only one…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Kerwin……YES brother, God is the “actual” father of Jesus’ flesh body and spirit. God the Father supplied his male DNA in the womb of Mary. He is the “only” human being, Fathered by GOD HIMSELF, through the human berth process. He is therefore the “ONLY BEGOTTEN” Son of God. Not a created SON but a BEGOTTEN (born) Son. The first to be born by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Nick……JESUS WAS A COMPLETE HUMAN BEING RIGHT? So that included his spirit as well as his body. Now that complete human RECIEVED the spirit of the living GOD INTO HIM AT THE JORDAN RIVER, RIGHT? Now do you think the complete human being died, then or did he walk about as a the same complete human being “with” the spirit of the living God in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
To all…….”brethern, you have NO NEED OF A TEACHER, THE “SPIRIT” ITSELF will teach you all things. All who have the spirit reconize the sound of the spirit. The true sheep hear the sound of their sheppard ,they know not the sound of a false sheppard and will not follow him.
He that has an ear let him hear.
peace and love to you all and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was God Manifest in the Flesh? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Nick..That is exactly right. If T8 could only come to see that, this site would yield much greater fruit. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 6 months ago
T8…..ALL OF MANKIND IS MADE IN THE “IMAGE” OF GOD. WHY DO YOU TRY TO SEPERATE JESUS OUR BROTHER FROM US? Does it not say “in the “image”of God , created he them, male and female created he them”.
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 6 months ago
T8…..ALL OF MANKIND IS MADE IN THE “IMAGE” OF GOD. WHY DO YOU TRY TO SEPERATE JESUS OUR BROTHER FROM US?
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
T8……You say you are using spectivelative ideas, therein lies your problem. You speculate that JESUS HIMSELF IS GOD’S WORD, but scripture does not say thay “exactly” it say he is “Called” the word of God, so my question to you is why is he “CALLED ” it, is it BECAUSE HE REALLY “IS” GOD’S WORDS, or is it because he speaks “GOD’S WORDS” TO US?.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
T8……You say you are using spectivelative ideas, therein lies your problem. You speculate that JESUS HIMSELD IS GOD’S WORD, but scripture does not say thay “exactly” it say he is “Called” the word of God, so my question to you is why is he “CALLED ” it is it BECAUSE HE REALLY “IS” the word of God,or is it because he speaks “GOD’S WORDS” TO US?.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Kerwin……While we did preexist the actual berthing process in the womb of our mothers, having becme a product of our Father and Mothers DNA, of course that does not mean we ever existed before that process took place. Does that DNA process cause us all to mentally process things differently or is it a different spirit intellect formed in us by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Kerwin……While we did preexist the actual berth process in the womb of our mothers having becme a product of our Father and Mothers DNA, of course that does not mean we ever existed before that process took place. Does that DNA process cause us all to mentally process things differently or is it a different spirit intellect formed in us by GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin……..i do not believe we preexisted our berth brother. I believe we came into existence exactly like JESUS DID, BY THE COMBINATION OF DNA.
peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Nick…..Perfect answer brother. Now with that understanding reread 2THS2 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE FALSE “IMAGE” OF JESUS BEING A GOD, is the “LIE” SPOKEN OF THERE, IT TURNS OUR “IMAGE” OF HIM INTO A “MAN OF SIN”, because it breakes the first commandment of GOD. Paul was given the revelation about this even though he might not have known it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Nick…..Perfect answer brother. Now with that understanding reread 2THS2 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE FALSE “IMAGE” OF JESUS BEING A GOD, is the “LIE” SPOKEN OF THERE, IT TURNS OUR “IMAGE” OF HIM INTO A “MAN OF SIN”, because it breakes the first commandment of GOD. Paul was given the revelation about this even though he might not have known it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Danny ……..You have it exactly right, hold on to that and see what our heavenly Father will do in your life. No one can come unto that realization unless the FATHER IS REAVELING IT TO HIM.
peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca……God Fathered a son from among mankind through a women, Mary, what is so hard for you not to be able to understand that? Why do you even think that Jesus preexisted his berth onthis earth, what point would itbeforeGod to evendo that in the first place, what would that prove to humanity for a preexisting being to come down to this…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Marty……Very good point, it is in the “perception” of “HOW” Jesus came from heaven that is the problem. We know it was God the Father himself that begot JESUS through Mary’s womb, and in “THAT SENSE” Jesus was begotten from above, not that he preexisted before his berth on this earth as somekind of sentinal being and was “morphed” into a womens…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca……Marty has said it exactly right Nick as well as kerwin also , GOD SPOKE THROUGH HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON (THE ONLY HUMAN BEING THAT HE HIMSELF BEGOT THROUGH THE HUMAN BERTH PROCESS) THE HUMAN MAN JESUS, WHO AFTER RECIEVING THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAME THE MESSIAH. JESUS WAS ALSO GOD’S HUMAN SACRIFICE FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND. HE WAS A HUMAN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Another point to consider…….if we read what JOHN SAID IN THE ORIGINA ARAMIC LANGUAGE , it does not say ANTICHRIST, it says that whosoever denies that Jesus came not in the flesh is ANTI-MESSIAH, He said that because all the Jew’s knew that the Messiah was to be a human being , they knew that then and still know that. So ovisouly a MESSIAH,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
To all….. Actually it say that whosoever denies that “JESUS” CAME IN THE FLESH IS ANTICHRIST.
Question is how does that apply. Or better what way does it apply.
Could it be that denying Jesus flesh existence also deny his CHRISTOS, OR HIS ANOINTING. The Gnostics were saying Jesus was a God, and that would deny him needing to be Anointed by…[Read more]
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