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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..yes that one spirit we have been made to drink of , JESUS CALLED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. THAT IS ONE OF THE SPIRITS OF GOD. BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. JESUS HAS ALL SEVEN OF THE SPIRITS OF GOD ON HIM, YOU AND I MAY NOT HAVE ALL OF THEM, OR AT LEAST NOT THE SEVEN “HORNS” (powers)that must accompany the seven spirits of GOD TO CREATE THEIR EFFECT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….it is your natural mind that can’t except spiritual things, you seem unable to realize that the reason th seven spirits go before the throne of GOD, IS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MAKES UP THE MIND OF GOD. THAT SAME MIND WILL BE IN JESUS, AND IS WHAT HE WILL SET UP THE KINGDOM OF GOD WITH. REV 5:6

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..The point i was making is that Jesus was talking about not just a existing spirit ofsomekind, but a BODY ALSO . BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR OUR DOGMAS, we will not have a BODY AFTER THE RESURECTION THAT CAN BE DESTORYED. So therefore a “body” is not in danger of being destoryed because it does not exist in your false teachings. Your believe is…[Read more]

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    T8……you are following the exact path Satan wants us all to follow. That is why i have tried over and over to get all here to understand what the apostle Paul was talking about in 2 Ths 2, you are following the exact path Satan and his ministers want us all to follow.

    SATAN WANTS US TO BELIEVE JESUS WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE. You…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….. HOW DO YOU FIGURE Heb 6:19 says nothibg about the body, but, Heb 10:10…”By the which will we are santified through the offering of “the body” of Jesus Christ, once for all”.

    Are you saying Jesus body sacrifice was useless?

    The saying that flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God, your understanding is wrong, because many…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..you seem to have a flesh problem, not ME. Remember it is you who believes our bodies and Jesus’ body is worthless not me.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene

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    Kerwin……JESUS was certainly destined from berth to be the anointed of God, or the MESSIAH, OR CHRISTOS, prophesied to come into existence, by Moses and the other prophets, but he was not anointed untill it actually happened, at the Jordan as we believes. It was after that he was sent out into the world to preach the gospel of the kingdom of…[Read more]

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    TO ALL……..CAN YOU SEE HOW 2Ths2, gives us a full description of who and what the man of sin is? Doe anyone have the spirit to see and understand this?

    peace and love to you all and yours. ………….gene

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    Nick…..THERE ARE “SEVEN” SPIRITS OF GOD. SO TELL US WHAT THOSE SEVEN “SPIRITS” ARE IF NOT SPECIFIC ATRIBUTES OF KINDS AND TYPES OF KNOWLEDGE WHICH ARE DESTINCT INTELLECTS.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick……Exactly what did Jesus sacrifice, he and scriptures seem to think it was his flesh body, but you say there was a “mixup”, i see no where where he gave his spirit to be put to death, for the sins of the world, in fact he commited his spirit to the Father, when he was offering his “flesh” for the sins of the world. . Show us where “his”…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…..I also believe it is the spirit of God, that puts us in God the Father and Jesus and each other brother. That God may be in all and through all.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick……So the “FLESH” sacrifice of JESUS MEANS NOTHING TO YOU? If you do not take to yourself (eat) his “flesh” sacrifice given by God the Father for your sins and the sins of the world, you have no life in you. Jesus’ flesh is what payed for our sins and not only ours, but the sins of the whole world. Spritulizing it away as if it is nothing…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    Nick…..my Greek interLinear does contain the word “also” it reads this way , “whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is “MY FLESH”. Nearly all translations translate it this way, the question is why do you want the translation that translates it diferently. Does it have anything to…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    Nick……you added the word “also”, you still seem to have a flesh hangup brother. If you are going to quote a scripture please quote it as it is written.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 6 months ago

    Nick……you added the word “also”, you still seem to have a flesh hangup brother. F you are going to quote a scripture please quote it as it is written.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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    Paul tells us in 2 Ths 2 about lie that would be taught in the church and this lie was the work of Satan. How many here understand that that lie was about JESUS HIMSELF, being turned into a God, a false “image” of JESUS. This lie turns The image of Jesus into a “man” of SIN. How? By making him out to be a GOD, WHICH BREAKES THE FIRST COMMANDMENT…[Read more]

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    Paul tells us in 2 Ths 2 about lie that would be taught in the church and this lie was the work of Satan. How many here understand that that lie was about JESUS HIMSELF, being turned into a God, a false “image” of JESUS. This lie turns The image of Jesus into a “man” of SIN. How? By makinghimout tobe a GOD, WHICH BREAKES THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF…[Read more]

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    T8…..So why are you not “rejoicing” about the truth being told to you about Jesus not “preexisting” his berth on this earth then?

    peace and love to you and yours………..gene

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    NICK…..As far as Adam and Eve go ,God said theycould have never died just the way they were had they eaten from the tree of life. And Methulsiam lived all most one thousand years with the body he had. We can be sustaind forever with these bodies if we partake of the tree of life because it will regenerate them for ever.IMO

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    Nick…..ANOTHER POINT, Jesus told us not to fear those who can kill the body, and can do nothing else after that, but to fear him who can destory “BOTH” BODY AND SOUL, IN HELL. Why does he mention Body, if our bodies are not needed?

    Face it Nick you are as wrong as you could be on this.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

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