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    NICK….Neither…was the word “SPIRIT” UNTILL THE 700 HUNDREDS. SO ARE WE TO ASSUME SPIRITS DO NOT EXIST THEN? SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

    YOU HAVE BEEN ASK OVER AND OVER TO GIVE US YOU UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SPIRITS ARE. BUT YOU NEVER HAVE GIVEN US ANY EXPLINATION, SO YOUr SLIENCE ON THE SUBJECT HARDLY MAKES YOU ANYKIND OF EXPERT ON SPIRITS.…[Read more]

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    NICK….Neither…was the word “SPIRIT” UNTILL THE 700 HUNDREDS. SO ARE WE TO ASSUME SPIRITSDONOT EXIST THEN? SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

    YOU HAVEBEEN ASK OVER AND OVER TO GIVE US YOU UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SPIRITS ARE. BUT YOU NEVER HAVE GIVEN US ANY EXPLINATION, SO YOU SLIENCE ON THE SUBJECT HARDLY MAKES YOU ANYKIND OF EXPERTON SPIRITS.…[Read more]

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    Nick…..I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE EVEN THE HUMAN BODY IS MADE UP OF SEVERAL MEMBERS, so it is with the seven spirits of GOD THEY ARE ALL SPIRITS OF GOD SEVEN DESTINCT SPIRITS MAKING UP ONE, THEY ARE ALL SPIRIT, THEY WORK AS ONE, JUST AS OUR BODIES WORK AS ONE, BUT HAVE MANY PARTS. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend in the first…[Read more]

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    Nick…..seven represents completion with God. May be that is the reason. Try to understand the seven lamps before the throne of God represent theses seven spirits giving GODS light to his whole creation, that is how “God enlightens every man comming into the world”. What do you think enlighten means if not an enlightement of the mind. In fact…[Read more]

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    Nick…..THE OLD TESTEMENT DOES MENTION THE DIFFERENT SPIRITS. ISA 11:2

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..You can have it both ways, either flesh and blood cannot enter in the kingdom of God, or if the word of God became flesh itself ,the flesh is of the kingdom of God.

    Quoting scriptures means nothing if you can’t understand what they are truly saying. You believe the word of God became actually flesh or not, what is it Nick. You speak out…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….Then admit the flesh does profit AND CAN ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. But i submit a “word” can never itsef be flesh, but can be “in” “FLESH”. JUST AS SPIRIT CAN EXIST “IN” FLESH.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..when it say “WE” will come to you, it is refering to the spirit of GOD WHICH was “IN” JESUS, SO IF THE SPIRIT OF God became joined with Jesus, then in that sense “they” come to us, but that can go on to mean anyone who has the spirit of God in them also comes to that person also, how?, via the spirit of God, they have become one with…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    NICK…..YOU DODGING THE POINT I WAS MAKING, WHICH WAS, THE WORD NEVER ACTUALL “BECAME” FLESH, IT CAME TO BE “IN” FLESH, THE FLESH MAN JESUS. That does not make God or his word FLESH.

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    Hi….THE APOSTLE Paul said he was apointed from his berth.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..Ask yourself a simple question ok, have you ever seen a “FLESH WORD”,YES OR NO ? You say the flesh prophets nothing, so why would a flesh word if it were possible, profit anything ? You talk out of both sides of your mouth, on the one hand you say the flesh profits nothing, then say the word of God became flesh. So that is the same as…[Read more]

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    Nick…..THE SEVEN DESTINCT SPIRITS ACT AS ONE, TO BRING ABOUT WILL OF GOD, AND HENCE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.. JUST AS THE MANY MEMBERS OF OUR BODIES MAKE UP ONE FLESH BODY, BUT EACH FLESH PART PLAYS A DESTINCT ROLL IN THE “ONE” BODY. SAME APPLIES WITH THE CHURCH, THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS BUT STILL ONE BODY OF BELIEVERS. Same with the seven spirits…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…..the word eyes used there is a “metaphor”, for the eyes of understanding, the enlightenmement of GODS MIND, THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD ARE DESTINCT “INTELLECTS”, that give GOD HIS UNDERSTAND, or enlightment and us to if we have them . Spirits are type and kinds of “intellects” that enlighten our minds and Gods mind, to there type and…[Read more]

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    Nick…..Rev 3:1, 4:5, 5:6. These say specifically there ARE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. QUESTION IS when are you going to believe what it clearly say?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..NO WORD ever came to “BE” FLESH, the words of God came to be “IN” THE MAN JESUS, through the ANOINTING. But that never made JESUS himself the word of God, but a man God spoke through, just as he did in the prophets. Jesus said the words he was telling us was spirit, and those WORDS WERE NOT “HIS” words, but God the Fathers words. God and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Edj……Let me try to make sense outof this for you, now read carefully…….the spirit of Christ (the anointing spirit of God) was in the flesh and blood man Jesus. So when it says let this “mind” be in you that was in the “CHRIST” ( the anointed man) JESUS our lord. THAT IS “simply” SAYING, LET THAT SAME “MIND” BE IN YOU, by the SAME SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Danny Dabbs…..If Jesus preexisted his existence on earth then why is there no activity mention of him any time before his berth on this earth? Surely if he created everything there would be some kind of mention of him right? Further more why didn’t he say he ever created anything, or anything before he came to this earth and was “morphed” into a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin……GOOD POST BROTHER. People need to really understand hoe our s ripture have been corrupted by those who preach and teach false doctrines. This great effort to make JESUS APPEAR DIFERENT THEN WE ARE IS THE GREAT SATAN LIE, SPOKEN OF BY THE APOSTLE PAUL. This is why there are thousands of different demoninations and beliefs we must…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…..you are right, form can mean the same as image because forms are all made by something and so is an image both can also be spoken of in spritual terms also. There may be some differences, as an image seems to imply being made by somekind of outside force, and put on something , like a coin showing the image of a king, and a image can be…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin…..There are all kinds and types of spirits all are not the same, they effect our minds defferently. They cause us to act and speak they way we do. JESUS said ” the words (intellegent utterance) i am telling “ARE” SPIRIT. Mow how could that be unless the spirit is producing that “intellegent utterance”. To deny that spirits work in our…[Read more]

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