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    Nick….Can’t you ever just admit you were wrong?

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene

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    Mila…..JESUS IS NOT “THE” CHRISTOS “ANOINTING SPIRIT”, HE IS THE ONE THE CHRISTOS WAS “IN”, GOD THE FATHER IS THE CHRISTOS THAT WAS ABIDING “IN” THE MAN JESUS, RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF.

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    AndrewAD……So where is God the Fther”s spirit in all this, has he been cast out and now only JESUS’ spirit, you sound like Nick who believes the spirit of Christ is of JESUS.

    BUT SCRIPTURE SAYS , “IF THE SPIRIT OF “HIM”, WHO RAISED CHRIST (the anointed man) JESUS, FROM THE GRAVE ABIDES IN YOU, HE WILL ALSO QUICKEN (bring to life) YOUR…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    AndrewAD……So where is God the Fther”s spirit in all this, has he been cast out and noe only JESUS, you sound like Nick who believes the spirit of Christ is of JESUS.

    BUT SCRIPTRE SAYS , “IF THE SPIRIT OF HIM WHO RAISED CHRIST (the anointed man) JESUS, FROM THE GRAVE ABIDES IN YOU, HE WILL ALSO QUICKEN (bring to life) YOUR “MORTAL” (dead…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..YOUR accusitory spirit say nothing, produce scriptures that back up what you say, i have ,now show us where i was wrong, not just mouth off about me because i disagree with you. Produce your proof that you would want us to believe you have.

    peace and love to you and yours ……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    T8….You got it backwards, there is no “will” unless your desires are caused by something. The influence is the cause, the will is the effect the act is the result. Satan words was the cause that worked in Eve making her “will” to eat of that which was forbidden,the effect was they ate of it. GOD GAVE THEM “liberty” to excercise their…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    To all….. God the father was “IN” the man Jesus, through the anointing he recieved at the Jordan river, then he became know as the anointed one of God OR, the MESSIAH OF GOD. But that anointing was never, the man Jesus, nor was the CHRISTOS the man Jesus either.

    In 2 Cor 5:16, Paul is “NOT” addressing JESUS AT ALL, but that anointing spirit,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin….Yes it is called the Spirit of CHRIST, MEANING the Spirit of the anointing or better the spirit of God which was placed on the man JESUS . That is why PAUL SAID, WE KNEW the CHRISTOS ( that anointing spirit) “IN” THE FLESH. Yet henceforth know we no more. (The word “him” was added)

    peace and love to you and yours………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..why should I look to any “man” to help me, i look to my Heavenly Father for his help and his spirit to guide the thoughts of my mind, But aside from that, why does it say, “we know “NO MAN” any longer after the flesh.”?, it is not “JUST” saying JESUS as you”falsely assume, it says “NO MAN”.

    peace and love to you and yours…….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick…..why should I look to any “man” to help me, i look to my Heavenly Father for his help and his spirit to guide the thoughts of my mind, But aside from that, why does it say, “we know “NO MAN” any longer after the flesh.”?, it is not “JUST” saying JESUS as you”falsely assume, it say “NO MAN”.

    peace and love to you and yours…….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    NICK…..LIKE YOU SAYING THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF God are not holy spirits. So why haveyou deny in the past there are seven spirit of God and now offer us that they are not the holy spirit of God. Show where that is written in scriptures at,or is that just another of you personal dogmas you are preaching.

    As far as knowing CHRIST IN THE FLESH GOES,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    T8…..Where did i ever say we do not have choices? You misrepresent what i have said. What i said was those chosices are the result of enfluences working in us. On the other hand You have not yet shown any scripture that says “a man has a will that is “Free”. I have never said we don’t “have” a WILL, NOW HAVE I, that is not even in question.…[Read more]

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    Mia…..I believe by denying JESUS CAME INTO BEING AS A FLESH AND BLOOD HUMAN BEING IS TO DENY THE “MESSIAH”, BECAUSE THE MESSIAH HAS TO BE A MAN, AND COULD NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE, SO TO DENY HIS FLESH EXISTENCE, IS TO DENY HE IS THE CHRIST OR MESSIAH, MKING THAT PERSON AN ANTICHRIST OR ANTI-MESSIAH, OR AGAINST JESUS AS BEING, A MESSIAH or ANOINTED…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick……There seems to be no spirit of the anointing or christos, in your life. Because Your wanting the human spirit of Jesus to be in you right?, that has nothing to do with the SPIRIT “CHRISTOS” or “ANOINTING” OF GOD. But then you believe that JESUS WAS TURNED INTO SPIRIT WHEN HE ASENDED without any scripture support and you also believe…[Read more]

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    Nick…..Gal 1:15 implies that it was God who seperated Paul from his mothers womb for his position he later recieved. “FOR WHOM GOD KNOW HE ALSO PREDESTINED, to be comformed unto his sons.
    PERHAPS JUST AS HE DID JERMIAH THE PROPHET WHO HE ALSO PREDESTINED . JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS ALSO CALLED FROM HIS BERTH EVEN BEFORE HE WAS BORN. As well as…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Nick….Your accusitory spirit i see is again working overtime in you. Now i am saying i am infalible , why, just because i disagree with you and your versions of somethings, it appears you are the one who is thinking he is infallable not me. When have you ever admitted being wrong about anything descussed here, Talk about the kettle calling the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 9 years, 5 months ago

    T8….choice has nothing to do with it, what is driving that choice does have everything to do with it though.

    Anyon can take a side and find all kinds of people to quote in favor of their views. That video proved nothing reguarding the subject of “FREEWILL” IT only showed his biases i don’t recall him even using hardly any scriptures to prove…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin…..It is not taking about the spirit of JESUS, who is the CHRIST or anointed one, BUT the spirit of God who was “in” THE man Jesus. That same spirit anointing of God is what is being descused there. Notice the wording in 2 Cor 3:16, Nevertheless when “IT” turns unto the LORD, the vail shall be taken away. That is saying when our minds…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 5 months ago

    Kerwin…..it is not taking about the spirit of JESUS who is the CHRIST, BUT the spirit of God who was “in” THE Mman Jesus. That same spirit anointing of God is what is being descused there. Notice the wording in 2 Cor 3:16, Nevertheless when “IT” turn unto the LORD, the vail shall be taken away.

    How many here hve replaced God the FATHER with…[Read more]

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    Nick……Good advice, its time you start taking some of it, YOURSELF FOR A CHANGE.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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