Carmel,  I have quoted from scriptures directly and even listed the book and chapters , but you accuse me of not quoting them, which makes you simply a liar, then you proceed to alter our text to meet your twisted ideological views.  The scriptures speak for themselves, and you false interpretations of them only show how screwed up you really a…[Read more]

LU……Yes the “Spirit” . Of the anointing, ie the Christo’s, ,  which is the Spirit of GOD .

“one God ‘IN” all and “Through” all.”  “Know you not that you body “Is” the temple of God”,  remember?,  when God the Father said through the mouth of Jesus/. “Destroy this temple and in three days “I” SHALL RAISE IT UP,  that was God the Father speak…[Read more]

LU……I see your problem,  you thinking that Jesus said those words right at the time they were written down in Psa 2:7,    thats your error, no that wasen’t Jesus speaking , it was a prophesy  about what God the Father and  Jesus would be saying and doing,  in a future time. A time when the Kings and rulers of the earth will come and and try t…[Read more]

LU……it was a “prophisied” event that was “going” to take place,  The Book of Hebrews 1:15 , proves it , as i posted to CARMEL above , just read and study it, there you have your answers,   it’s both in the old Testement and the New as many things in scriptures  are.

Peace and love to you and yours LU……….gene

LU……it was a “prophisied” event that was “going” to take place,  The Book of Hebrews 1:15 , proves it , as i posted to CARMEL above , just read and study it, there you have your answers,   it’s both in the old Testement and the New as many things in scriptures  are.

Peace and love to you and yours LU……….gene

Carmel……makes no difference who that Angel or,  “messenger” was, he was still speaking the words of God, not his own words,   as your trying to portray .  Even the Angel at the Burning bush with Moses  was speaking God the Fathers words, not his own words.  Show me any scripture that say Angels are God’s,  just one Carmel,  none , but scriptu…[Read more]

CARMEL…….Just produce “one” scripture that says,  “Jesus “pre-existed” as a live being before he existed on this earth” , or even more simple,  He was alive before he was born on this earth,  or any activity recorded in scriptures showing,  i mean clear activity, not scriptures you have to add , your own thoughts to try to force the text to sa…[Read more]

Carmel…….You are one screwed up cookie, brother,  are you a Johovah wittness, they also believe that Jesus was a preexisting angel like you?

But what does tge scripture say about the Angels,  lets read it,  ok,  HEB 2:5…..”for unto the “ANGELS”, has he “not put in subjection”,  the world to come , where of we speak” 

Well seening you be…[Read more]

Carmel……..The anointing Spirit was in Moses , Calab ,Joushua, and the seventy Elders,  they all had the Spirit of God “in”  them,  that encludes “the man”, Jesus Christ,  and all true  “SON’S OF GOD,  alive  “now” also have that same “anointing Spirit of the Father in them also.  And because the seed (spirit of God) abides “in” use we are Son…[Read more]

Carmel…….Your scripture you quote is not referencing that it was Jesus  who brought them out of Egypt,  it is saying it was Joshua , the word for Joshua , in Hebrew is the exact same word for Jesus ,  in the GREEK LANGUAGE.  but we all know it was the man Joshua who brough them out of Egypt.  A good bible with a margin in the middle will tell…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Adam and Eve were both begotten from God,  so how does you saying Jesus was,  make him any different .  Jesus himself said over 80 times that he was a SON OF MAN, ie (mankind) ,   he said he was “the root and “Offspring”  of David.  tell us exactly what that means to you. THE APOSTAL Paul say he was from the loins of King David,…[Read more]

Proclaimer,   you may call it a “straw” argument,  but in fact it is a real argument for those who know the truth.  Why not try to look up those words in Greek and see for sure if it’s a “straw” argument.

What you produce is a straw argument,  if they arn’t, then show me one place in all of our scriptures that shows “any” activity of Jesus, befor…[Read more]

Proclaimer……..Yes he is the first “BORN”.  Of or FROM ALL CREATION.  question?   What does “first”, “born” , mean to you? Jesus is the first,  born from all of,  creation to be born in to the Kingdom of God, “you must be born again” Jesus said remember? By saying he was first  (born) is not the same as saying he was first created now is it?  In…[Read more]

To all…….What Jesus is,  is the finish product of what God the Father started with Adam and Eve.  Jesus is what God had in mind from the very beginning of his creation of all mankind.  Jesus is God the Fathers word (of prophesy) that came into being , as a flesh and blood human being, when he was born on this earth.  He was Baptized and rec…[Read more]

Carmel……Truth is you simply don’t believe God , nor what he says ,  (not me) ……YOU SHALL HAVE “NO” , “OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”,  NOR SHALL YOU MAKE “ANY” “IMAGE OF ME IN HEAVEN OR EARTH”…… COMMANDMENT number 1 

How bold you are   how breave you speek, in defiance of what our God and Jesus Christ  “plainly” said.  well we wilall see how…[Read more]

Proclaimer……. your teaching is very much like the teachibgs of the “21st century reformation”,  check it out on line and just see what you think,  maybe talk to them about usibg you site as a branch.  I agree with their teachings also brother. 

Peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene

Proclaimer…….Happy New Year to you,  and everyone else here,  we have another 17 hours to go, here in Fresno, California , USA.

Peace and love to you all and yours……..gene

Berean……..Commandments, are not “laws”   they are commandments,  and because they are not “laws”, they were  not “forced”on people to obey”,  the commandments were turnned into “Laws”, in  EXO 20:20,  that is when they became “laws” , requiring punishment for any disobedience,  Mose said it best,  Exo 20:20… And Moses said unto the people;…[Read more]

Carmel………I have quoted “exact”,  scriptures word for word  in nearly every post,  your problem you fail to look them up.  You had rather use text you can twist to say what they in fact are not saying as do nearly all trinitarians,  and false teachers.

Simple truth for  where you fasely present the spirit “of” Christ, as comming from Jesus…[Read more]

Berean……Paul said (not me) …..“by the works of “law”, shall no flesh be “JUSTIFIED”  before God.” ,  do you understand what he meant by that?  Please explain it to us , if you can.  The answer is understanding what is meant by the term,  “works of law” , can you explainit to us? 

Gen 26:5…..The word “law” there is a mistran…[Read more]