Proclaimer…….Adam and Eve were both begotten from God,  so how does you saying Jesus was,  make him any different .  Jesus himself said over 80 times that he was a SON OF MAN, ie (mankind) ,   he said he was “the root and “Offspring”  of David.  tell us exactly what that means to you. THE APOSTAL Paul say he was from the loins of King David,…[Read more]

Proclaimer,   you may call it a “straw” argument,  but in fact it is a real argument for those who know the truth.  Why not try to look up those words in Greek and see for sure if it’s a “straw” argument.

What you produce is a straw argument,  if they arn’t, then show me one place in all of our scriptures that shows “any” activity of Jesus, befor…[Read more]

Proclaimer……..Yes he is the first “BORN”.  Of or FROM ALL CREATION.  question?   What does “first”, “born” , mean to you? Jesus is the first,  born from all of,  creation to be born in to the Kingdom of God, “you must be born again” Jesus said remember? By saying he was first  (born) is not the same as saying he was first created now is it?  In…[Read more]

To all…….What Jesus is,  is the finish product of what God the Father started with Adam and Eve.  Jesus is what God had in mind from the very beginning of his creation of all mankind.  Jesus is God the Fathers word (of prophesy) that came into being , as a flesh and blood human being, when he was born on this earth.  He was Baptized and rec…[Read more]

Carmel……Truth is you simply don’t believe God , nor what he says ,  (not me) ……YOU SHALL HAVE “NO” , “OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”,  NOR SHALL YOU MAKE “ANY” “IMAGE OF ME IN HEAVEN OR EARTH”…… COMMANDMENT number 1 

How bold you are   how breave you speek, in defiance of what our God and Jesus Christ  “plainly” said.  well we wilall see how…[Read more]

Proclaimer……. your teaching is very much like the teachibgs of the “21st century reformation”,  check it out on line and just see what you think,  maybe talk to them about usibg you site as a branch.  I agree with their teachings also brother. 

Peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene

Proclaimer…….Happy New Year to you,  and everyone else here,  we have another 17 hours to go, here in Fresno, California , USA.

Peace and love to you all and yours……..gene

Berean……..Commandments, are not “laws”   they are commandments,  and because they are not “laws”, they were  not “forced”on people to obey”,  the commandments were turnned into “Laws”, in  EXO 20:20,  that is when they became “laws” , requiring punishment for any disobedience,  Mose said it best,  Exo 20:20… And Moses said unto the people;…[Read more]

Carmel………I have quoted “exact”,  scriptures word for word  in nearly every post,  your problem you fail to look them up.  You had rather use text you can twist to say what they in fact are not saying as do nearly all trinitarians,  and false teachers.

Simple truth for  where you fasely present the spirit “of” Christ, as comming from Jesus…[Read more]

Berean……Paul said (not me) …..“by the works of “law”, shall no flesh be “JUSTIFIED”  before God.” ,  do you understand what he meant by that?  Please explain it to us , if you can.  The answer is understanding what is meant by the term,  “works of law” , can you explainit to us? 

Gen 26:5…..The word “law” there is a mistran…[Read more]

Paul said   (not me) …….. “that you may be blameless and harmless, the Sons of GOD, without rebuck, in the mudest of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom “YOU” SHINE AS “LIGHTS” IN THE WORLD; 

And again James says (not me)…… “every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes from the FATHER OF “LIGHTS”,  with whom is no…[Read more]

LU……I realize what you and Carmel say,  but i would rather believe what our actual scriptures say, and this is what they say (not me)……Gen 1:27…..”so God created “MAN”  in his “OWN” IMAGE , in the “IMAGE” of God  created “he” him; male and female created he them”.

Ibelieve there are seven Spirits of God,  with those seven Spirits of his…[Read more]

CARMEL……God made “all” mankind in his “image”,   please explaine how that “only” applies to The “Man” Jesus and not the rest of his human brothers and sisters? 

Jesus existence comes from man kind , just the exact same as our existence does , through the power of God the exact same as our existence does.  But Satan and his ministers want…[Read more]

LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD……., ACCORDING TO YOU,  he meant to say,  “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”.     Should we all erase our scriptures and change them it to fit your interputation?  Perhaps you have found another interputation somewhere , inlig…[Read more]

Berean…….Jesus was in the “likeness”, ie, “image” of God , just exactly as we are, with the nature “spirit” of God in him,  but he did not think to try to, “rob” God by trying to make himself equal to him , he was found in the flesh , exactly as we are, because he was a human being exactly as we are in everyway.

If you and everyone else do…[Read more]

Miia, and all, “may the LORD bless you and keep you, may he make his face shine upon you and be gracious unto you, may he lift up his countenance upon  you and give you peace.”

Peace and love to you all and yours……….gene

To all…….Jesus said (not me)……. “If therefore the light that is in you be darkness, how great is that darkness!”

Some have more darkness then others do,  AND some have more light,  but only God the Father has it all.  That is why we are told to study the word to show “OURSELVES” , THAT WE ARE WORKMEN , NOT TO BE. AHAMED, BY , “…[Read more]

LU……..GOD said this in answer to where you ask me where God said there is no GOD BESIDES HIM ?, remember God said this (not me)…..Isa 44:8…..“fear you not , neither be afraid: have I not told you from that time, and have declaired it?  You are my witnesses:  is there a GOD besides me? Yea there is no God,; I know not any.

And common s…[Read more]

LU…….please tell us how is a God “begotten”?  Please show us by scripture how that is done.  Are you talking about Jesus , the one who said,  (not me) …..“the son of man can do “nothing” of himself” ,   is he the God your talking about?

Jesus said,  (not me) “this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” true God.   [Read more]

Carmel…..yea, I would like to know also your number one scripture that supports your triniatrian view,  just scripture please , not your twisted renditions of them, just plain scripture.

Peace and love to you and yours Carmel………gene