Berean,  you said, “You’re going to tell me, but this power comes from the father.This is true in a,  “certain” sense”.

No,  this is true in a “APSOLUTE” SENSE,   Jesus himself said,  (not me) …….“the Son of Man can do “NOTHING” of himself”.    what does the word  “NOTHING”,  mean to you?  AND how does that fit in with your,  Jesus is the cr…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Wisdom is not a person, it is an “ATRIBUTE” ,  one of the seven  Spirits, of God,  trying to make it out to be Jesus is simply forcing the text to say what in fact it does not say or even hint at.  

This is what you are doing with many other scriptures also, like thinking when Jesus said,  “before”  Abraham, I am,  as meaning…[Read more]

Desire truth…….Welcome to my and Jodi’s world,  These people haven’t a clue what scriptures actually say, they rely on the lies of modern “christanity” inturpitations and conform to the Prophesy of Paul, in “2ths2”,    they have turned the “man” Jesus into their God .  Just as Pual said they would,  they have turned the “image” of him into a…[Read more]

Berean…….Jesus said (not me)…..“this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU”,  the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, and Jesus Christ who you have sent”. 

And again scriptures says (not me) …….“but unto us there is but “ONE” God, and one “MEDIATOR”,  between God and men, the “MAN” Jesus Christ”. 

And again scripture says (not me) …..“GOD IS NOT…[Read more]

Berean……..You bet I cast doubt on the  New Testement,  translations,  epically when and where it contradicts  the old Testement.

As Desire truth, has said you are living in a “box” , YES a box  created for you by,  the SEVENTH DAY ADVANTISTS,  a box without a door.

By the way it wasn’t me who told us to do what I said, it was THE APOSTA…[Read more]

Desire Truth……..I believe, if whatever is said “contradicts ”  what is written in the old Testement,  it is a lie.  I also believe it takes the “spirit of truth”  to guide your mind into the true meaning of scriptures.  

We were told by PAUL to study the scriptures, to show ourselves , “approved unto God by “rightly” dividing the word of…[Read more]

Jodi……..It’seems not about the truth to them, it about their false religious ideas, their not even intellegent enough to understand  that what they say is completely again what scriptures in the old Testement says, they create complete contradictions, in our scriptures, And don’t even know  they are.

But the the true way like we are e…[Read more]

Proclaimer……..There exists no such thing as a Will, being free itself,  or it would not be called a will, now would it? ,  Free will,  is an OXYMORON,  because no such thing exists.

Wills are  driven desires, nothing free about it.,  Jesus said (not me),   pray like this,  “OUR Father who art in heaven, the kingdom come “THY WILL” , be done…[Read more]

Desire Truth. …….What I believe God was speaking to,  was the “Seven Spirits of God “,  these seven .spirits are what I believe God sends out into all his Kingdom , to perform his will in all his creation. We are told Theses Seven Spirits gobefore his throne and go out into the earth to perform the will of God, in all his holy creation.  No…[Read more]

Jodi…….Those who truly know the truth , know what you have written is the truth from God’s word.  Haven’t you noticed they never address all the tons of scriptures you quote. THEY ONLY COME BACK WITH A Single SCRIPTURE,  that they can twist to mean something other they what it is actually saying.  They simply use them to , “cloud the tru…[Read more]

Proclaimer. ……..please read and study what Jodi wrote to you, perhaps you can come to see Jesus did not “preexist”  , His birth on this earth,  That is your big stumbling block brother.  IMO

THAT IS NOT saying,  Jesus was not in the plan and will of God , before he ever even started his human creation on this earth though.

Peace and love…[Read more]

Desire Truth…….  You said,…… “I am a firm believer that to understand the “new” you have to understand the “old”. If the “new” is all there is for you, you will not fully understand what is being said.”  

That is “exactly the truth”, we can’t even begin to understand the New Testement without understanding the Old Testement. It t…[Read more]

Desire Truth……..see what they do here, they force our text to say what in fact it doesen’t say or even hint at, by adding their own words to the text.

CARMEL SAID
39See my hands and feet, that it is I myself; handle, and see:
for a (NORMAL) spirit hath not flesh and bones,
as you see me to have.
40And when he had said this, he shewed them hi…[Read more]

Carmel…….You remind me of a tennis ball being bounced off  walls of deception,  saying I was not “quoting” the scriptures correctly is a lie,  and you well know that. I am quoting them “exactly as they are written”,  in the king James bible.   

Because those scriptures go against you and your false teachings, is your problem not mine,  as I…[Read more]

Desire Truth……..Your like a breath of fresh air to me and I believe Jodi also,   I see the “Spirit of truth in you” , I reconize it by the soundness of your words.  My hope is you will bring more “truth” to this site, and that we may all grow to a Better understanding of our scriptures.

“may the LORD, bless you and keep you, may the LORD…[Read more]

Gene
If “the word” are only spoken wordswhy then John said:
AND THE WORD WAS GOD
GENE ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD, NOT SPOKEN WORDS EVEN IF THEY COME FROM GOD.
When God speaks, only GOD IS GOD NOT HIS WORDS.
Berean God and his words are one and the same person, just as you and your word are you.  No one can be another person’s words, common sens…[Read more]

Desire truth………Simple,  you need to just believe what Jesus told us and you have your answer,   Jesus said  (not me)…..“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me”.  Simple as that,  those that believe Jesus know by Jesus’ own words, he, “himelf” is not the words of God himself, he was quoting as a [Read more]

Miia…….I believe that God is starting to break up this World ruling Babylon system of nations, that exist today, these nations are strong but differ from one another as Daniel brought out in the toes of the image of Babylon, which is the fifth and finel Babylon kingdom to fall right before the return of Jesus and the  setting up of the Sixth…[Read more]

Carmel…….There is no sound teaching in you, you have been deceived for so long and trying to change what our Bible text says, so long  ,  I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone so screwed up as you are.  It may be because you actually believe you have the Spirit of truth “in” you , but no one with the “Spirit of truth”,  in them cou…[Read more]

Jodi……Don’t get to discourage, it just haven’t been given to them to know the truth yet, Even though we have presented it to them clearly, over and over.

remember what Jesus said,…..“no man “CAN”, come to me, except the Father which has sent me “DRAW” him, and l will raise him up at the last day.

Satan has so mislead  nearly all of Christendo…[Read more]