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    Proclaimer……Who here is denying Isaiah 53,  was not speaking about Jesus in prophesy.?
    but tell us what is met in verse 8,  …..who in “HIS GENERATION” protested.

    That term “in his generation”. Should tell you his generation was not at the time of that prophesy, “why” ?, because he did not then exist as a live being. The whole thing is a [Read more]

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    Berean……..I think Desire Truth, is not trying to dismiss Jesus as a messiah, but simply trying to get you to see him in a right way.  The way the Old Testament Jew’s viewed him.  They saw Jesus as a descendent of king David, not as a “preexisting” being  who was “morphed” into a human being from some kind of past life as you view him.

    I also see…[Read more]

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    Carmel……Jesus saying we must eat his flesh and drink his blood, is a “METAPHOR”  for the words simply meaning we must take his life to ourselves, and become exactly like him.

    when you eat of drink something you are taking it into yourself and it becomes part of “your” very existence.   Fact is if you don’t do that you have “no life in you”.
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    Proclaimer…….Jesus was simply telling he was more “important” them Abraham to them,  the Jews trusted in their relationship to Abraham as the sign that made them important to God, they used that all the time even to JOHN the Baptist  who told them God could raise up stone to Abraham if he wanted to.  The Jews even use this today, they think their…[Read more]

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    Desire Truth…….Well said, good post, I wish Carmel and Berean, would start taking these things to heart.

    peace and love to you and yours Desire Truth……….gene

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    Desire Truth…….Well said, good post, I wish Carmel and Berean, would start taking these things to heart.

    peace and love to you and yours Desire Truth……….gene

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    Carmel , you said

    2 Corinthians 6:5 I will therefore admonish you, though ye once knew all things,

    that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt,
    did afterwards destroy them that believed not:

     

    1Corinthians 10:4And did all eat the same spiritual food, 4And all drank the same spiritual drink; (and they drank of the spiritual…[Read more]

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    Carmel……Interesting how you leave out parts of scriptures that show your corrupt thinking .
    here is what scripture actually says…….Phil 2:11……”And that every tongue “should” confess that Jesus Christ is lord, to the “GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER”.

    NOTICE, it doesn’t say to the glory of Jesus, as you falsely present it, but to the glory of [Read more]

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    Danny Dobbs…..I said….. “MY SAVIOR AND JESUS’ SAVIOR IS GOD THE FATHER” , NONE OTHER.

    You said. …Me: And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
    1 John 4:14

    me……That’s right, just as Moses was sent by God to save Israel, but who actually saved them was it Moses or God the Father ?

    Jesus-was inde…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….According to you people, he always was a life giving Spirit,  so then why does it say “HE “BCAME”,  A life giving Spirit.   Seeing you falsely believe he always was?

    Trust me Carmel you haven’t a clue what you are saying,  you have fallen for the biggest “LIE” ever fostered on humanity.  In fact you are a minister of that “LIE”  yours…[Read more]

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    Berean……you lack the ability to understand The sense in which things are said in scriptures. Jesus died for (because of) our sin and not only ours but the sins of the whole world.  That needs to be understood in the right context.

    Jesus was the man God prophesied to come by the prophets,  he was the first human being to not sin, he was a the p…[Read more]

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    Carmel you said…….”THE ROOT IS ALWAYS THE BEGINNING OF ALL FRUITS!”

    Wrong, again,    The Seed is!

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Desire Truth……..They will never answer you posts honestly,  because they have to change the simple truth into a form of “mystery religion”,  they preach.  They do not have a true love for the truth in them,  and as a result remain deluded in their minds, just as said in           “2 Ths 2 “.     

    peace and love to you and yours Desire Truth………gene

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    Carmel…….I am of the “root” of the Balthrop family, and also the “offspring” of ANDREW,   JUST THAT SIMPLE.  no mystery, no tricks, no deceptions, simple the truth.

    JESUS IS OF ( the root of Jesse’s family line),  he is also the offspring of David, who also is a root of Jesse himself,  as the scriptures, I and Jodi have posted,  clearly…[Read more]

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    To all…….Exactly what scripture says Jesus “PAID”, “FOR”, our sins. Saying someone “BORE”our sins,  is not the same as saying he DIED for them. Fact is , Jesus “BORE” the sins of the whole world,  because it was the sin in the world that killed him,   another fact is, it was “GOD THE FATHER “HIMSELF” that put Jesus to the death, Or don’t you beli…[Read more]

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    Carmel……..JESUS IS BOTH,   THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF David,  I showed you how he was by scripture the Root from the family line of Jesse,  and so was king David,  and I can produce scripture that proves he was from the linage of King David also. Never mind that JODI produced them already about ten or twenty time here. But non the less let me r…[Read more]

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    Carmel……..JESUS IS BOTH,   THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF David,  I showed you how he was by scripture the Root from the family line of Jesse,  and so was king David,  and I can produce scripture that proves he was from the linage of King David also. Never mind that JODI produced them already about ten or twenty time here. But non the less let me r…[Read more]

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    Berean…….Do you actually believe that Jesus’ dying on the tree, i. e. Cross,  actually forgives everyone of their sins?  No you must “repent” first , then be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins, and then you will receive the gift of the “Holy Spirit” ,  that begins a work of salvation “IN” you. You are saved by “grace” and that not of ourse…[Read more]

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    Berean…….Do you actually believe that Jesus’ dying on the tree, i. e. Cross,  actually forgives everyone of their sins?  No you must “repent” first , then be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins, and then you will receive the gift of the “Holy Spirit” ,  that begins a work of salvation “IN” you. You are saved by “grace” and that not of ourse…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….Scripture shows clearly , as I have posted, that Jesus is of the “ROOT’  ( of Jesse the same as David),  AND IS A “OFFSPRING” of  DAVID.   When Jesus said, “I am the root and the offspring of DAVID”,  he was telling the truth.

    Carmel you can try to twist and turn the scriptures you want in your “mystery” form of religion you practice,…[Read more]

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