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    Nick….Wrong, please show me where i disagree with Anthony or Jodi, it’s you that is disagreeing with them and me. Arn’t you the one saying, the old testement was lying about the dead not me or them? It’s you saying the soul is not a human body with the breath of life in it, not me OR ANTHONY OR JODI. It’s you taking a “parable” and trying to…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    T8….you don’t believe he was ‘born’ YOU BELIEVE HE WAS “MORPHED” INTO A BODY. YOU really do not believe he came from the loins of king David, as he said he did. You are preaching a different Jesus, then scripture shows, you belifes are nore on the lines of a alien comming to earth taking the form of a human being. But really a alien of somekind,…[Read more]

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    Anthony. …i believe our bodies are just changed from being able to die to not being able to die.

    Pauls said this,
    1 Cor 15:42-44….So also the resurection of the dead. It is sown in coruption; it is raised in incoruption: 43..It is sown in dishonur; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44… it is sown a…[Read more]

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    Anthony. ..Nike doesn’t get it. I have tried over many many years to get him to see that, his preconcieved ideas of a after life in the neither world has blinded his eyes.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    Jodi…Another good post, yes Jesus was in deed raised from the dead with a eternal living “BODY’ which is not subjected to death again. Our hope is to attain to that same kind of resurection also.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    T8….No, he was born “TO BE “A” “MESSAIH”. it’s quite unfortinate you can’t see that, just as Moses was also bornto be a messiah.

    I quoted scripture wher it “SHALL” be, now does it say that? Yes or No please.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    Nick…you false assumption that Jesus never saw Death, is a lie, Jesus did truly die was completely dead, his SOUL died on that cross or stake, when the breath of “life” left him. He was truly dead and had no life until he was resurected by GOD THE FATHER.

    Your false teachings about him still being alive after he died is pure rubbish, and…[Read more]

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    TC…Rom 8:11 ..But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from THE DEAD dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from THE DEAD shall also quicken you mortal (dead) BODIES by his Spirit that dwells in you.

    That same Spirit is what raised Jesus’ DEAD BODY, FROM THE GRAVE.

    TC, we must realize Jesus was truly dead when he died, there was…[Read more]

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    Mike ….He explained what he was talking about and he definitely wasn’t talking about not going to the moon, but why the space agencies stop going back after their trip. He was talking about the space program itself. If that is your so called proof, it a joke at best. Lol.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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    Mike ….He explained what he was talking about and he definitely wasn’t not goung to the moon but why the space agencies stop going back. He was talking about the space program itself. If that is your so called proof, it a joke at best. Lol.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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    Mike m because it was broken and not continuious. Couldn’t you notice that, and the fruit cake that was recordibg it just kept comming back to that one little part, and never letting it run out to explain what his intentions were by saying that.

    You people are just grabbing for straws, any little freak thing you can used, because that’s all…[Read more]

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    Nick….But how are they dead, according to your theory of them still alive after they die? No Nick your teaching of the living dead is wrong period. What you preach defeats the whole perpose of death and the power of the resurection by GOD THE FATHER.

    By the way trying to us JONAH AS as proof that people are still alive after they die is not…[Read more]

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    Nick… Interesting you don’t comit on what i just wrote, but instead go to trying to put me down as a person who doesn’t know scriptures, when in fact it’s you who hasen’t a clue to what a parable is designed to teach about.

    Your the one twesting scriptures and even Jesus’ very own words, Jesus said he was dead and you deny it and say he was…[Read more]

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    Mike… that was an altered video BUZZ had a different intent to what he was telling her, which they very cleaverly edited out. He was addressing his concerns about why we have not continued more landings. That had nothing to do with the fact they did land there.

    But AGAIN you can find anything to support your mindset, if you look hard enough.…[Read more]

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    Nick….The fact is it is you who are throwing away all the many scriptures written about death, soul, resurection back to life, in a physical body and ect, written in both the old and new testement. Forming your opinions based on scriptures in Luk 16:20-27.

    That parable is to illustrate that there is a future devide between people who suffered…[Read more]

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    NICK….what i am saying the story is not to be taken as what Jesus is talking about, yes a man can go out into a field and sow seed and yes the seed can fall at different places, but that story was not what Jesus was talking about, it’s a metaphor to illustrate a spritual principle. The story is designed to through people off, Who can’t see the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    T8….Not saying the verse is wrong, it how your taken it thats wrong. No one is arguing that JESUS WAS “BORN”, TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. Read this

    Mat 1:23….and she “SHALL” bring forth a son, and you “SHALL” call his name Jesus: for he “SHALL” save his people from their sins.

    All (future tense expressions). Where does it say when he…[Read more]

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    Nick….A living Soul, is described in full in Gen 2:7 that is exactly what a living Soul is. Why are you so desperately truing to change what it “clearly” says?

    Your ideas about people still alive when their dead is completely wrong, infact it causes you and others to miss the whole perpose of death. The perpose of death is to teach us that we…[Read more]

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    T8…YOU saying we are Antichrists, is saying we don’t believe in the anointing of the man Jesus, that is a “lie” We do believe Jesus was anointed with the spirit of God at the jordan river, so how can you say we are antichrists?

    Actually you are denying his anionting process, by saying he was born anointed, your beliefs line up with the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    T8….OK then, please tell us who was saved when JESUS WAS BORN, that shouldn’t be hard for you seening you believe he was already the savoir at birth?

    Why did he have to die in order for us to be forgiven, if he was “already” the savior at birth, pick on that and come back and tell us how that fits into your
    Reasonings, if you can?…[Read more]

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