Nick….why mention God when you don’t believe him, it wasn’t me that said “the soul that sins it shall die”, i wasn’t the one who told ADAM AND EVE, “if you eat of the tree of the knowelege of good and evil you shall Surely “DIE” , OR TELL THEM “dust thou art and dust thou shall return”. Plus many scriptures that relate the same message. No…[Read more]

Nick…. the term sleep used for death does not mean a person is still alive when he died, it is used for referencing the future state of a resurection, that takes place later. Another words that person will not stay “eternally” dead, but it does not mean the person who died is still living after he dies.

Thats your logic talking, because you…[Read more]

Nick…why do you even think the lord even raises our bodies up and puts the breath of life back into it if the soul doesent die upon death. Seems to me a resurection of a body with the breath of life back into it would be a waste if time according to your teachings, right?

Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

Anthony…i know Earnesr Martian he was with the WWCG, WHICH I WAS A ACTIVE MEMBER, YEARS AGO. HE WAS INDEED A VERY GOOD TEACHER, HE FOLLOWED HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG, AND EVENTUALLY LEFT THAT ORGANAZATION AND SO DID I. THAT IS WHY I TOLD YOU I HAD HEARD THAT TEACHING BEFORE. I DON’T KNOW IF HE IS STILL AROUND BUT HE WAS INDEED A SCHOLAR, HE ATTENDED…[Read more]

Nick…i know that, but none of having the spirit in Jesus stopted him from truly dying for us. And having to be raised from death by The spirit of God, noe did lt.?

Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

Nick…while the holy spirit which is God in us, can not die, but we sure can and if you believe Jesus he sure did die, at least that is what he said. “I was dead, and “now” am alive for evermore”. To me Jesus truly did die, a real death for my sins. He gave up his life for me and others also. He was completely dead in that grave for three days…[Read more]

TC …did Jesus LIE? “I WAS “DEAD” AND NOW AM ALIVE FOREVER MORE”? ARE YOU SAYING Jesus never ‘Really” died? My bible say by his own mouth he did “truly” die.

Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

Anthony…I have heard that many years ago, now that you have mentioned it, it comes back to me, yes it does fit the parable brother. Abraham’s servant Elasar had no inheritance with Abraham but was very faithful to him. Good form Anthony.

Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

Edj…I know the kingdom of God is within a person, “for the kingdom of God comes without observation, it is within you”, Jesus said, i am not a novice. Jesus said the kingdom of God has come near you, not that it had already come, i was talking about the literal kingdom that JESUS and the saints will bring to this world at the return of Jesus.…[Read more]

Nick….Every “Soul”, (the complete being), dies that sinned, without exception. Scripture says “it is appointed unto man to die, once, then after that the judgement. If you look up the wrd soul you used there you will find it should be rendered spirit, because a soul is a body with the breath of life in it. According to GEN.2:7 . No one has…[Read more]

TC… I also believe Jesus was raised with glory and honor as we shall be also at our resurection or change at the return of Jesus. I was just addressing the mountain of transfiguration incident that it was indeed a vision of a future wvent.

I believe when a person dies they are truly dead and remain that way till they are resructed and given…[Read more]

Nick….the transfiguration was a vision, about the comming kingdom of God. Jesus aid somethat were there would not die till they saw the kingdom of God coming, so he took three of them andwent up on the mountain of transfiguration, and they saw the vision.

We know the kingdom hasen’t come yet, we’re still waiting for it to come, and the return…[Read more]

TC….Nick doesn’t seem to understand metaphors, he sees every thing as literal, he believes people do not truly die, when they die, he believes death is like a person going out of a room and opening another door and goes into another room, still alive.

He doesn’t believe what Rom 8:23, or Gen 2:7 he believes our bodies are completely done away…[Read more]

Nick, Trying to change subject matter only shows your desperations, none of what you posted proves people are alive in some neither world when they die.

Obviously if the “Dead” were being Judged, then they certanily are not alive, or they were alive but spritually Considered dead, because they died before Jesus paid their death penalty for…[Read more]

Nick…tell us does the resurection take place in the “neither world” you call sheol, back to a different life here on earth from what they were “living” in your sheol?

What i take it you are saying when a person dies, he really passes into another world you call sheol your intrem world where they keep on living right?, then at the time of the…[Read more]

Nick..Sheol, simply means grave, but you twist it to mean a place of the still living, who are being tormented and still alive, even though judgement hasen’t even taken place yet, in teaching that you are even denying there is a death, not to mention making Jesus’ death OUT TO BE A LIE, BY SAYING HE TRULY WAS NOT DEAD, AS HE SAID HE WAS. You…[Read more]

Nick…Who said Jesus’ body corupted at anytime, your the one say he lost his body,not me, infact he still has that body he died in, and so will we. The only difference our resructed bodies will never die. Just as Jesus’ resurected body will never die. Your false ideas that Jesus’ body died again or was changed to something else like a spirit…[Read more]

LU…Cherry picking biased,and corrupt “trinitarian” bibles is hardly good scholarship. You can get millions, in fact two “billions” of “trinatarians” to agree with you, “because wide is the way that leads to destruction and “many” go in threat there of”. But “straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and “FEW” THERE BE THAT…[Read more]

So Nick….Jesus body did see coruption, according to you views, but scripture says it didn’t see corruption, now ask yourself why., could it be because he did not sin., the judgement of God was that the man (body with the breath of life in it) would die and his body would go back to the dust right. But jesus never sinned so that judgement OF…[Read more]

Jodi….I agreewith that, i think what confusses Nick, is the term “spritural” he believes that to mean a “spirit” body, which no such thing exist. We are changed, that meanings from being able to be corupted to not being able to be corrupted in anyway. “For this mortal (being able to die) must “put on” emortality (not being able to die). No…[Read more]