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    Anthony…. The apostle Paul said that, that iniquity was already working in his day, and also remember he said it was a “lie” , a lie does not represent the real person, it is what is said about a real person. Also remember it says that he takes his seat in the temple of God, the (true God), not a false temple of a pope, no one would ever…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TC…..The spirit of God is in the mind of all who have his spirit “in” them , God’s became flesh when his spirit entered into JESUS AT HIS BAPTIZM AT THE JORDAN RIVER. AND IT WAS NOT Jesus who said destory this temple and in three days I shall raise it up, that was God the Father speakibg first person through Jesus’ mouth. Because Jesus didn not…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Edj…So you believe Jesus was denying he was a decendent of king David? Then why would he say I am the root “AND” he Offspring of David. Paul also said Jesus was from the loins of king David. Jesus didn’t say he wasn’t not a “decendent” of David he said he was not his “SON”. GOD is the FATHER of all his anointed (christo’s) ones. “Call you no man…[Read more]

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    Anthony….please read this post on 2nd thes 2, and give me your opinion.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    Anthony. ..AMEN BROTHER, good post, but these people are so indoctrinated in “mystery religion” they simply do not get it. They can’t seem to understand that the resurection is about our bodies and spirit our complete “SOUL”, They can’t understand that there is a reaon that “every hair” is numbered, which shows a perservation of our exact DNA,…[Read more]

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    T8….God said the ‘soul’ that sinneth “it” shall die, but we look for the resurection which will wittiness the redemption of our “bodies”. Accrding to the apostle Paul. Jesus never sinned he stillis alive in his original body he was born with. It was not possible for him to lose anything because he never sinned he is in the same body he was born…[Read more]

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    Nick….Everything i mentioned is in scriptures, had you truly known scriptures you would understand that. It’s not my fault you are unable to precieve these things Nick, but if you like please tell me which things i mentioned are not in scriptute and i will try to help you see what i was saying brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    T8….not if they conform to what scriptures say. Jesus is the second ADAM. BUT YOU SEEM TO NOT BELIEVE THAT, to you he is a something else, but not a second ADAM,RIGHT?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene.

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    To all… nothing has changed with JESUS’ APERANCE, HE IS THE EXACT SAME PERSON HE WAS, ONLY HIS BODY CAN NOT ANY LONGER DIE, AND HE HAS NOW RECIEVED A CROWN OF GLORY, AS ALL WHO ARE TRUE BELIEVERS WILL.

    Peace and love to you all and yours. …..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    T8….shurely you know God is about “perfecting” humanity, how better to do that then creating another ADAM, perfecting him in the presence of all humanity? Your teaching of The prexisting Jesus, completely shatters that perception. It changes who Jesus actually is, making him d I fferent the the rest of humanity. Not only that it denies the work…[Read more]

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    T8….did not Jesus say ” if you being evil know how to give good gifts to your childern”…., he was talking to his deciples right?, now sense he calls them evil, will they also parish? Have you ever thought that perhaps it is the evil itself, that will parish, not the person? Has not God concluded all in unbelife that he might have mercy on…[Read more]

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    T8…yes we will have the same kind of body Jesus now has, and that was the body he was raised with, the body God gave him, which never saw coruption in the grave, he still has it, and will come with it also, just as the angel said ‘this Jesus you see asend shall also come in like manner. Same Jesus same body. IMO

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Edj….Jodi is right. If you can’t see Jesus our lord as a fellow human being, that GOD THE FATHER HAS brought forth from human kind, you simply are not seeing the right Jesus. He is and was a actual decendent of king David, born just as we are, a “perfected” human being from the tribe of Judah. Moses plainly explains that, “the LORD shall bring…[Read more]

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    TC…it’s only heresy to those who are unable to see the truth. Think about this, if JESUS had his body done away with, then the judgement of God would not have been just, because he said, “the “soul” that sinneth shall die”, Jesus esus never sinned so his “soul” (body and spirit) was preserved and never saw corruption, he was raised withthe same…[Read more]

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    Jodi….AMEN, IT WAS THE ACTUAL BODY JESUS HAD THAT WAS RESURECTED, BUT IMPOWERED BY THE SPIRIT OF God to never die again. OUR bodies will also be resurected as his is, to never die again, by the same spirit that was in him and in us.

    TC…You said the body (temple) Jesus was raised up with was not the same body he died in, you are wrong it was…[Read more]

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    TC…So to you spirits “are” bodies of some kind? Interesting Jesus didn’t think so. Do you even know what a spirit is?, you seem to not even have a clue what spirits are. Spirits are not bodies of anykind they are what is ‘IN’ BODIES. Bodies have mass, spirits do not. There are ton of scriptures that clearly show this. But you seem to deny this…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Jodi….right on sis, if only more could understand this truth.

    Peace and love to you and yours …..gene

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    Nick….Rom 11-12…is talking about the SALVATION of the whole WORLD. Not just the Jews as you falsely assume. All people are GOD’S CREATION and he will save them, if he so choses to. God has concluded us all unders sin, that he might have mercy on all he chosses too.

    Your chosen word “oppertunity”, shows how you believe you are saved, it…[Read more]

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    Nick….Scripture say GOD IS NO RESPECTOR OF PERSONS. HIS WORDS ARE THE SAME FOR ALL. The grace of God abides on all his chosen ones. I believe If God “WILLS” NONE PARISH, then it is certanly possible NONE PARISH. You on the other hand deny the POWER OF GOD and his ability to save. Did not Jesus say, “ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD”?

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    Jodi….another good post sis, God bless you.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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