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    Berean…….Using a corrupted scripture , like your using to try to prove yourself right, only creates contradictions.  Here is what God the Father himself said about who created everything.

    Isa 44:24…..>“This says the LORD, your redeemer, and he that formed you from the womb,  I am the LORD that makes “ALL” THINGS; that stretches forth the heavens…[Read more]

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    Berean…….Using a corrupted scripture , like your using to try to prove yourself right, only creates contradictions.  Here is what God the Father himself said about who created everything.

    Isa 44:24…..>“This says the LORD, your redeemer, and he that formed you from the womb,  I am the LORD that makes “ALL” THINGS; that stretches forth the heavens…[Read more]

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    Berean…….Jesus said…….“no man can come unto me except the “Father” draw him”.

    No man “can”even begin to go to Jesus without the Father taking him there,  Jesus can raise no body except the Father gives him permission to, and Jesus only raises those God the father shows him .  Notice care fully the scripture you posted. Verse 24,  [Read more]

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    Berean…….Psa 146:4….> “His breath goes forth, he returns to the earth; in that very day his thoughts parish”.

    when a man dies he is totally gone forever,  as far as he is concerned, he no longer exists, he is “completely” gone.  But that doesn’t mean that God can’t reconstruct him, that is why the next verse says,  Psa 146: 5……> Happy is he that…[Read more]

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    Carmel and here scripture comes. (not me).  Num23:19…..God is not a man, that he should lie, neither the Son of man , that he should repent: 

    Jesus called himself a Son of man around 80 times. Question is when are you going to start to believe him and what he says?

    The word “GODMAN” does not appear once in our scriptures.  So who are we to belie…[Read more]

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    Carmel…..Talks cheap, show us where in any bible is the word “MANGOD”. Show us any scripture that contradicts these scriptures.  Jesus said this (not me) ……’’this eternal life, that they might know “YOU” THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD,  and Jesus Christ who , “YOU” have sent”.

    And again the Apostle Paul wrote,…….1 Ti 2:5 …”There is “ONE GOD”  and one “MED…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….Everyone here disagrees with the garbage you preach here, haven’t you noticed that yet?   I really don’t think you have produced a single scripture that haven’t been tainted with your “MANGOD” teachings about Jesus.  The only thing you are posting here is “LIES” ,  and twisted concoctions you and your Father, the devil , have come up with…[Read more]

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    Carmel……the one corrupting our scriptures here is you and always has been you.

    Accusing me of not quoting scriptures is Just another “LIE”.   you and your father uses to try to deflect people from the truth of what scriptures actually say, and everyone here knows that by now or at least should know it.

    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

     

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    Desire Truth…….scripture saying “who has believed “our” report” Could the “our” there be referencing the “prophets” of God?  Because it was through the Prophets, that God sent his messages right.

    The thing about prophecy is, it can be applying to the time or day it is written, or a near or far future event that’s to take place.  So I think i…[Read more]

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    Desire Truth…….you are making some good points brother ,  yes Jacob is call a servant of God, and by extension “Israel”. And Israel certainly did suffer , but not for others , but because of their own sins. We can say Jacob was indeed a servant of God, but can we say the nation of Israel was? Scripture shows Israel did not serve God,  and was c…[Read more]

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    DesireTruth………who do you think the “our” there in 53  represents,  I believe the our is a all inclusive word, meaning the prophet Isaiah and the people of Israel,  and could even represent the whole world.  Kinda of like wen Jesus said pray in this way…….“Our” father, who art in heaven”.   Again that’s an all inclusive statement,  meaning Jesus an…[Read more]

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    Danny…….You have to understand, in “what “sense” , did he die,  also you need to understand the word “for” can just as easily mean “because of”. Jesus died on the cross,  i.e. tree,   “Because of “. the sins of the world,  He did not pay your sin debt off for you, you will pay for that by dying yourself.  “The “SOUL” that sins “IT’ shall die”.…[Read more]

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    To All……Jesus did not die for anyone’s personal sin debt.  We will die for our own sins,  the idea Jesus paid our sin debt off is a lie, our death pays it .  Just as scripture says, “the soul that sins it shall die”,  all have sinned all die.,  

    But you would say , Jesus did not sin, so why did he die then? ,  many say he died to payoff my si…[Read more]

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    To All……Jesus did not die for anyone’s personal sin debt.  We will die for our own sins,  the idea Jesus paid our sin debt off is a lie, our death pays it .  Just as scripture says, “the soul that sins it shall die”,  all have sinned all die.,  

    But you would say , Jesus did not sin, so why did he die then? ,  many say he died to payoff my si…[Read more]

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    Desire Truth….I do know where you are coming from, I left the false teachings the Catholic and Protestant religions a long long time ago,  I also kept the law way enter then the Jews do by far.  I did that for seven years,  from the time I was 3o to about 37,  I study and obeyed “the law”far better then my Jewish friends did , I was in the WWCG,…[Read more]

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    YOU: For these Rabbis to be correct, it would mean that the Christ has not come yet and Jesus was either an impostor or never existed.”

    ME: Well that’s an interesting thought………..Desire Truth> please tell me you not starting to think that Jesus is not the MESSIAH , don’t let those Jews corrupt your mind,  they knew ” exactly” the time of his “…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….How can you say you “believe” Jesus, when you have turned him into your God,  something the man Jesus never did.  Jesus said this (not me). …..”this is life eternal, that they might know “YOU” THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD,  “AND” Jesus Christ w you have sent”.   Does that sound to you like Jesus is saying he is God?

    So to me that makes you a…[Read more]

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    Desire Truth……..Be careful of believing the Jews,  they reject Jesus as the “Messiah”  even to this day. But there is a “few” who do believe Jesus is the “Messiah .  They knew the exact time the Messiah was to be born, from scripture, and they rejected him anyway,  be careful not to be taken in by them brother.

    I have studied Isaiah 53 from bo…[Read more]

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    Carmel……if you think you actually are eating Jesus flesh and actually drinking his blood, in a physical sense you’re your mistaking ,  eat and drink are simply a “METAPHOR”  which simply means to take to yourself his life (the way he lived) ,  it has nothing to do with actually eating any flesh or drinking any blood, at all.

    peace and love to y…[Read more]

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    To all…….There is no proof of a “preexisting ” Jesus in any of our Old Testament scriptures at all, no one can produce a single scripture showing “ANY” activity of him being alive before his birth on this earth at all> the only thing they do is force texts to say what in fact it does not, by adding their own thoughts to the actual writings.  Jesu…[Read more]

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