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    Berean……The God’s word is God, the only reason it says “was” , is because John was speaking about something that “was ” in (the beginning ). GOD AND HIS WORD ARE ONE AND THE SAME THING. 

    This might help you,  is a word? , it is intellegent utterance.  GOD’S intellect is his words, just as your words show your intellence, so does GOD’S WO…[Read more]

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    Berean….So you simply trash all the hundreds of scriptures to force your false assumptions, like 90 % of all Christanity does. Good luck with that your going to need it. But on thing for sure you and the others who go along with your teachings will be judged, for not applying all the scriptures me and Jodi have , “clearly” shown you…[Read more]

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    T8…. First you need to explain to us is, how a persons words is not the person , you say Jesus was God’s word “himself” , but that not what Jesus said.  Show us any scripture where Jesus ever said he “himself” is God the Fathers word.   Your words are with you because they cannot be someone else. Even if someone quotes you, it’s still you,  as t…[Read more]

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    T8, you and Berean are  not seeing that John was transported to the Day  (time) of the Lord. That puts him into the sixth kingdom, of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s . UNTILL YOU SEE THAT YOU CAN’T BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND Rev 11 : 9-11. 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

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    Davo…..AMEN to that.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

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    To all…….This is the way i understand it, begotten is the process of what causes, while born is what is produce,  first comes the  causal or begotten,  then the bringing forth, ie. “born”.

    Therefore it says, whosoever is “born” of God does not commit sin; for (because) his seed (that which beggets) remains in him: and he can not sin, bec…[Read more]

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    T8……good post, I also agree with that. We have one and “only one”  God.  There is “only one mediator” between men and God “the man” Jesus Christ. 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    Berean…..the word “by” used there means “for the reason of”,  Jodi and I  have posted the meaning of that word  as used in our scriptures so many times,  but you fail to understand it .

    Greek ….. (dia)….. a primary preposition “DENOTING THE CHANNEL OF AN ACT”; THROUGH  (in very wide applications, local, “CAUSAL” or OCCASIONAL), In compo…[Read more]

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    LU……So tell us what does this mean to you.

    John 12:49….. “for I have “not spoken” of myself; but the Father which sent me, “HE” gave me a commandment, what I should say, “and” what I should speak”. 

    Deu 18:18…..“I (God) will raise them up a prophet “from among  their brethern”, like unto you, and will put “MY WORDS” in his mouth; and he…[Read more]

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    Jodi…. I know you try hard to explain to them from scriptures the truth here, but remember without the spirit of truth “in” them it’s almost impossible to do, it’s like the old saying , “you can’t corner a snake in a bryor patch. “,  But there is one good thing about all this, it does sharpen us up on the Gospel and how to deal false teachings,…[Read more]

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    Berean…..Your understanding about the “word” of God being Jesus  himself,  came from many years of false assumptions and false teachings.

    Haven’t you even noticed you can even explain why JESUS SAID THIS , THE WORDS I AM TELLING YOU  ARE “NOT MINE”.  What does are “not mine” mean to you?   Why not try to simply deal with that, before you go ra…[Read more]

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    Berean……Having an “atrubute” of God, Does not a God make, even if you had every atrubute,  it take more then just an atrubute, it takes the powers also.  Jesus never “himself” heald anyone, it was God the Father who did the healing, and the raising of the dead.  What you and others here fail to see is that Jesus had a God , who perform those h…[Read more]

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    T8….. The “mark of the beast”,   could be those who hold to this pesent world system of economic rule, that effects everyone’s life, in this world. We have all been inducted into this System of Economic rule,  that has infected this whole world, every since the Bablonian Empire,  this system of rule, along with its verious rise and falls of mili…[Read more]

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    T8…..Rev 18: 10-20 describes the system of Babylon clearly, it all about the system of WORLD ECONOMICS of buying and selling for gain, and how that system makes slaves of people.  This whole world operates under that system of by and sell for gain which enslave people everywhere in this word. why do you think it says Come out of Her “my pe…[Read more]

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    T8……I agree with you on this, Jesus is not God the Father or a God at all, he is a Son of God, being a human being and the first to be resurected from the grave of “many” brethern.  The biggest problem LU has is she doesn’t understand there is a big difference in the upper case words LORD, and the lower case lord,  the Hebrew word for LORD i…[Read more]

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    Miia….. What interesting about this is, how fragile our world economic system is, it can be shaken and even stopped in many ways,   Perhaps it does show us how we are being used by this “Babyloian System” of rule, and how it does effects our lives.  This Babylon System  make slaves out of most everyone in the world.  This Babyloian System of ru…[Read more]

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    Mike…..Jesus is not God the Fathers word, he was not even in existence at the beginning John was talking about.  Jesus is no more God’s word the if I said I was your word. You are your own word,unless someone is quoting you,  you and your word are the same. SO IT IS WITH GOD, HE AND HIS WORD ARE ONE AND THE SAME THING.  why then did Jesus den…[Read more]

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    Berean, you said there is more enlighten on who God is and who Jesus is in the new teatement, then the old, “bad form”,   you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried,  it is the old Testement that clearly show exactly who Jesus is. You saying that explains why you believe in a false Christ, not the one mentioned in scriptures.  The old and the Ne…[Read more]

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    Lu……quite playing games you, as well as anyone here, should know that  Isa 44:21  he word LORD (adonia) used there  means the “Almighty God”.   you should also know scriptures says clearly,  and scripture says, “unto us there is “One” God and one mediator between God and men,  the “MAN ” Jesus Christ “. and what Jesus himself said, [Read more]

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    Berean……Clever you left out the true meaning of the word  “DIA” the word simply mean it was for the reason or purpose of.  We have many clear scriptures the say it was  God  the Father alone,  and by himself , that created everything that exists.  

    Using scriptures untruthfully and against so many others scriptures that prove you are wrong…[Read more]

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