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    Pilgrim. ….you must pay attention to the actual word that are written, for instance you quoted this , …the Holy Spirit “shall”  come upon you and (notice carefully) “that Holy “thing” ( why would he say “thing”  if he already know who Jesus was )  and , which “shall” be born” of you “shall” be called the son of God.  No where does it say he…[Read more]

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    LU…..I think slowing down and deal with what is written clearly in our scriptures would help you also. I know you have been taught a lot of different things over many years, by different writers,  but following their teaching can led you no where in the end, because if they are wrong and wind up in the ditch so will you right?  I think we all n…[Read more]

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    Pilgrim……what a pilithura of words,  I noticed  you did not even deal with my point at all, my point was that the Hebrew words used in the text clearly show that THE WORD LORD, meant the ALMIGHTY God, While the word lord meant a human ruler , two different word meanings. That was the subject we were talking about, now do you you either a…[Read more]

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    Edj…..Wrong again, JESUS IS A 100% HUMAN BEING AND NEVER SINNED.  He is what God the Father has in mind for us all , Jesus is the completed work of God for all humanity, he is what God had in mind at the very creation of man kind.

    As far as “free will” goes you believe you save yourself by your so-called free will choices, I believe it is…[Read more]

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    Berean,  what do you do with the geology of Jesus given in Luke 3:23-38,  have you thrown it out of your bible?  It not only shows Jesus through the linkage of King David, but also calls Adam the “son of God”.  No scripture say what you have posted, that just another “trinitarian” teaching that has not true scripture SUPPORT.  That the proble…[Read more]

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    Jodi…..you have it right.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    Berean…..Your wrong JESUS IS 100% human a b d was without sin. SEE that your problem you do n I t see a 100% human being living without sin. You see a GOD LIVING “DESGUISED” AS A HUMAN.  In that sense you are denying Jesus was,   and still is a “flesh” human.  what did  John say, “about people who do that? ‘” whosoever that deny’s Christ (the…[Read more]

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    T8. …..Thank God you are controlling immigration,  you don’t want what has happened here to happen over there.  God gave you people a beautiful country keep it that way.  We have a beautiful country also, we just need to take care of it better, but so much unlimited immigration has  really effected us,  we are seening more and more third worl…[Read more]

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    Pilgram…….I see you say CHRISTIANS agree with what I wrote, but disagree with my conclusions, so let’s slow this down a little and deal with some main points you listed.

    First point I would like us to deal with is your misunderstanding I believe of a very important scripture. You believe that the word translated in the Greek text of Psalm…[Read more]

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    Edj…..why does the scriptures call Adam the son of God? Why does scripture say , know you not that “now” we are the sons of the Living  God.  Who ever has the SPIRIT OF God In them are sons of GOD,  why do you think being a son of God somehow prevents you from being a human being?, no scripture says that.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……[Read more]

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    LU……JESUS most deffenitly was including himself when he quoted , “hear ‘O’ Isreal , the LORD , your GOD is One LORD”  . Was Jesus an ISRAELITE of the tribe of Juda?,  if so then  it applied to him also.

    What I can’t understand for the life of me is why you fell the need to even think to deny that?  Why should that present any problem to you? …[Read more]

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    GOD Pilgrim. ….JESUS said “not” me…”GOD IS SPIRIT”,  Jesus  said, “not” me,  “the  “Only”  true GOD”,   Paul said “not” me,  unto us, there is but “one” GOD”.  Jesus said “not” me….“our” Father who is in heaven” , Jesus said “not” me,  the son of man, can do “nothing” by himself”, Jesus said “not” me,  “I am going to “my” GOD , and your GO…[Read more]

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    Mike….I agree with a lot of stuff you say,  but the Glory that Jesus had before the world was ever created,  was what God had planned for him, even before he ever existed. Jesus was a planned protype of GOD’S intended purpose,  before he ever came into his existence, Jesus fullwell understood that, and when he had finished those prophetic th…[Read more]

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    T8……Why do you think immigration is a good thing for you?  I don’t see it that way over here in the US.  You have a beautiful country, why not keep it that way.?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    Pilgrim……I have made a Hebrew study of the word, and according JEFF BENNER  a major Hebrew Scholar on the orginal pictorial language of ancient Hebrew,  the “symbol” for the word GOD , WAS THE HEAD OF AN OX, with a shepards STAFF leaning into it.  Don’t know where you have came up with what have produced.

    God is not a person at all , it is th…[Read more]

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    Jodi……another good post sis.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    LU….I belong to no religious organization, haven’t for over 40 years.  I try not to let any past accociations of past organization influence me, I take every thing to scriptures that are written, and when the flow is not consistent with “all” scriptures both in the new and old,  I do a search on it looking for the error in how it’s being p…[Read more]

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    Pilgrim. …..welcome to the site. I would like to ask you a question, have ever considered the ELOHIM is a (uni-plural)  word, by uni-plural I mean one thing made up of different things,  EXAMPLE , one God made up of seven destination spirits. called in scripture the “SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD”. Have you ever considered that those seven spirits were…[Read more]

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    LU……YOU ARE DESCRIBING what scripture says about the Atrabute of what wisdom is.   That has nothing  to do with a individual person but a quality a person can pocess.  Trying to make it a person it self would be forcing the text to say what in fact it does not say.

    There are Seven Spirits of God, wisdom is one of them, which works in the min…[Read more]

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    T8…..You can say that again.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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