Mike……Those words are not what scripture supports, you have added thought into them.  Mike please notice Jesus never said “give me back” that is a assumption on your and others part, taken from the stand point of a “preexisting Jesus”,  a position that no scripture supports.  Jesus had “before him comming into his existence” a “prophe…[Read more]

Mike…..Good post. We see Jesus as subordinate to God the Father, and that is correct,  backed up by many scriptures and even the words of Jesus himself as you have quoted, Jodie and I have also. They spin of what is actually written and create their own teachings without true scripture support.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

Pilgrim…..why would Jesus need to be “anointed” for anything,  if he was already,  A GOD? Have you ever thought of that?,  What would be the point of anointing a God with the Spirit of God? You people do not see Jesus as a man anointed with the Spirit of God, you see him as a GOD.

IF YOU SAY DIFFERENT you are simply lying. 

Jodi is apsol…[Read more]

Pilgrim……No God is “adon” , he is “adonai” , he is no lord (human ruler) he is “LORD” OUR GOD , the single creator of all thing that exist, THAT HE AND HE ALONE CREATED BY HIMSELF.

That’s the God that Jesus believed in and preached to us,  and so do true believers belive in GOD the Father and the “man” Jesus. 

Creating another GOD, IS CALLE…[Read more]

Pilgrim……LISTEN TO WHAT GOD SAID ABOUT HIMSELF,  “God is “not” a man that he should lie, nor a “SON OF MAN” that he should repent.  Jesus said over 80 times he was a “son of man”.. seems you have a problem here , you need to explain.  The LORD our GOD also said he looked for another GOD and found “none”.  This was said before Jesus existed o…[Read more]

Edj…..Good you have it right, is that not what JODI AND I , WHO HAVE QUOTES THOSE VERSES over and over have said all along. It is God who created everything that exists by the word of “his”  power. He alone is God and there is “NO” OTHER. 

Peach and love to you and yours. ……….gene

Edj…..What I am saying is, those words do not address the “will” itself,    it is saying we have freedom to eXpress our wills. AND THOSE WILLS ARE THE EXPRESSIONS OF WHAT IS “INFLUENCING” us the most. The subject of what a will is   is not even being spoken about there. I have never said we didn’t  have “freedom”  to express our own “influenced”…[Read more]

PILGRIM….Your the one being ‘disingenuous ” here not me, even the scriptures you address above still prove my point. The “LORD” (ADONAI) saying he is the “LORD” (YEHWEH) of all lords (human rulers) and GOD of all God’s (man made  Gods),  does not mean he himself is any of those lords (adon) or any of those false gods either. WHAT HE IS SAYING i…[Read more]

T8……What’s lame about say God foreknow, WHAT HE WAS GO I NG TO DO, scripture plainly shows us he did. Nothing lame  about that. If you want I can list all the scriptures that prove it, but would it do any good?, you will still hold on to your wrong conclusions,  no matter how many scriptures we use and have used, right?

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Edj……look up the text in it original intent, it is simply say if they of themselves decide to, it is not addressing  the term “freewill” itself.  What it really means people doing things from their “own” will.   By deciding  themselves to do something.  We all can do that, anytime, but that does not address the fact that that our will are fr…[Read more]

Pilgram…..you ask me to show Jesus linnage from Abraham, it is clearly seen in scripture, I don’t want to post it here, but you or anyone can easely see it, in the linnage of JESUS GIVEN IN LUKE , it shows his linnage all the way back to Adam and includes ABRAHAM also. Check it out and let me know if you can see it ok?

1 col 15:45  shows he is…[Read more]

Pilgrim……you have not answered my questions to the above post.  Simple questions but no answers.  Just take a very little time and answer it OK. Skirting off in a different direction is not honestly answering them.

Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

PILGRIM……I did answer with scripture, but you denied it. Lets do this again Ok?,  let’s go slow and not jump around ok, now please tell us what this is “truly saying” .  

Psa 110:1…. “the LORD (strong H3068)  said unto my lord (strong H113) ,

Do you see that the words  for  “LORD”  and “Lord ”  used there are “completely different words”  [Read more]

CARMEL…….as I said…..you people do not believe in th ANOINTING SPIRIT, being given to “the flesh” man Jesus. After he was baptized by John at the Jordan river.  That is exactly JOHNS POINT, when he coined the term “ANTI-CHRISTO’S ” or those against the anointing of the flesh man Jesus. You as well as others here fit perfectly into the cate…[Read more]

LU….MERE MAN? , DO you mean mankind, who GOD gives Glory and Honor, and has put under his feet “all” the works of his hand?  My what low appionions you people have for GOD greatest creation, even saying  we are created in his ‘image”, so you must have a low application for his work also, interesting.

Peace and love to you and yours. ….…[Read more]

Boomerang. ……Welcome to the site.  I agree with what T8 said, seems like you have a good relationship, let her be who she is and you be who you are,   sounds like it been working for you both.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Edj…..Why not address things you “actually say”?  that the whole problem here , people say things they can’t scripturally support, and expect us to believe them.  Same old problem, same old results.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Berean…..Christ is “not” Jesus,  JESUS IS THE “CHRIST” OR the ANOINTED ONE. your mixing up the ANOINTING Spirit of GOD WITH THE PERSON, Jesus.   It seems you people don’t even understand that.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

Berean….problem is you people constantly add your thoughts  to our text to try to fit your false conclusions. Now your even denying what Jesus said, by try to make it out that Jesus could do “anything” himself  but only a certain thing he couldn’t do, but Jesus never said that nor any other scripture does either. Why can’t you ppeople  take wh…[Read more]

Jodi……you are right , Jesus could have used those gifts from God to rob God of Glory, easely, because the invisible  God, the Father was doing all his  works through the “man” Jesus.   He could have simply allowed the people to attribute those works to him, and steal the Glory that belonged to God the Father. Jesus was always acutely aware of…[Read more]