Edj……we can say the same thing about Jeramiah,  he also spoke t h e words of God, as well as all t he prophets of old,  which includes MOSES,,  just as the book of Hebrews says,  “God” spoke to us.

Heb 1:1-2…..God , who at sundry times and in divers manners “SPOKE” IN time past unto us the Fathers by Greek “en” meaning in and through)  the…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..Good post, that is exactly what trinitarians do.  They have been feed a bunch of false teaching to the point they base their eternal salvation on it, sad. But there is still time for them to repent if God will give them the eyes to see and mind to understand truth.

Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene

Carmel…..Yes lord, (adoni, a human ruler) “not”  LORD (adonai Almighty God) as you portray him as.  Big difference between the Jesus you preach, and  the Jesus of the scriptures.

Nowhere in scripture has Jesus ever said “he was himself” the word of GOD, but he did say this “the words I am telling you are “NOT” “my” words,  but the words of him…[Read more]

Carmel,  you say God is to powerful, to pure, to sentivitive, to abide in his creatures.  Let see what scripture really says,

Eph 4:6….‘one God and Father of “all”, who is above “all”, and through “all”, and “in” you all”.

Phi 2:13…“For it is God which works “in” you both to “will” and to do of “his” good pleasure”. (where is your s…[Read more]

Pilgrim…..one wrong statement after another,

You quote this,  “for GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not parish,  but have everlasting life”.  But the message of Jesus Christ the Man was for us to hear the word of the Father , which he was delivering to us.

Then “you” say Chr…[Read more]

Edj…..”AMEN” to that brother.  The basic fundimental knowledge above all knowledge is to understand ,  there is “Only” “ONE” true GOD, and it is not Jesus,  that’s the “starting point”, you simply can’t move on to any other truth,  unless you clearly understand that.  That is why I keep trying over and over to get them to see and understand that…[Read more]

Carmel….. “MAN”, Talk about manipulating scriptures, and trying to make them say what in fact they do not even hint at, you are so far out there, your posts are nor event worth thinking about much less Reading.  How did you ever come to those conclusions ?,  it certainly WASN’T  from our scriptures,  nor the Spirit of truth EITHER.  It seems…[Read more]

Edj……Well put, if they had the Spirit of truth in them they could easely understand those scriptures correctly, but to me it is a evident token that they simply can not, and therefore lack the Spirit of Truth and because they do not love the truth, God has sent unto them a deluding, inorder for them to believe a “LIE” , just as 2ths2…[Read more]

Pilgrim,  the words speak for themselves, no matter what some scholar says, most all true scholars know it is talking about God the Father just as Jesus said it. The wide way that leads to destruction, is exactly the way you people believe, so you should have no trouble finding  those that agree with you, nearly all so-called Christanity b…[Read more]

Pilgrim,  I realize you really don’t see it , but you are taking the exact same stand  the Scribes and Pharisees were taking,  they twisted up what Jesus was saying all the time,  even say he was making himself out to be a God, when he never did, just as you people are saying right. You may have more likeness to them then you even begin to rea…[Read more]

Pilgram……So, according to you we must change the written word to comply to our own belifes system,  so when we read , “God is “NOT” a man”, nor a “Son of man”, we need to change the text to comply with your “private” inturpitions,  because some how God was not “really” comparing himself to man, right?.  I see you we are give liberty to chan…[Read more]

Pilgrim…..Sorry for the point blank truth and sarcasm I used , but it gets perty descussing at times when people change what clear scriptures say, or ignore them to push their false teachings,  but that’s what all  trinitarians and false teachers do.  They treat the solid clearly written scriptures, as if they were not in their bibles, and tr…[Read more]

Proclaimer. ….another what ?  If Jesus said “that they might know “YOU”  the “Only” true GOD” , it’s “obvious” he was not talking about himself being a “GOD” of anykind. 

“ONLY” “TRUE” ……means “NO” OTHER IS A “TRUE” GOD.  

“YOU”……..is alway directing the attintion toward someone else, other then the person speaking.

I can believe…[Read more]

Pilgrim . ….So now you are telling us God is a liar, when he said he is “not a man” or a “son of man”. So I guess we are not to believe anything he says, according to your distorted reasoning right?.  So show us where GOD IS A “LIAR’, and while you are at it show us where he is “a man” or a “son of man”.

GOD the Father was telling us about ho…[Read more]

LU…..Don’t you understand that Jesus “riflects” God the Father to us by “quoting” “his” , the Fathers words to us? ,  Jesus said clearly,” I have glorified “you”, on the earth”, tell me what does that mean to you?  How was he Glorifying the Father on the earth , was it by stealing his (God the Fathers) words and applying them to himself?, as yo…[Read more]

Pilgram. ….No it isn’t saying Jesus is GOD,  DID YOU NOTICE the word ““OUR” in that statement, Jesus was quoting?  DID YOU ALSO NOTICE the word LORD, (adonai) in Hebrew, means the “ALMIGHTY GOD “,  Jesus is not that, he is a “lord” (adoni)  which means any human ruler, like a human judge, king,  or magistrate.  Completely different words. …[Read more]

LU…….,   Jesus is not YEHWEH,  I can’t believe you don’t understand that.   Who do you think he was praying to, himself?  Jesus has many names or titles,  that are not “exactly who or what he is” example,  is Jesus truly a real  Lamb?, yet he is called the Lamb of God right?,   he is called “the rightiousness of YEHWEH “because”, he does the [Read more]

Proclaimer…..So according to you Jesus lied when he said “the words I am telling you are “NOT” my words, but the words of him that sent me”.  So you really do not believe what Jesus himself said right?.  I think before we can move on we need to know if you “truly” believe what Jesus said or not? 

Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

Proclaimer. …Jesus said clearly ” the words he was telling us was “not” his words, BUT,  the words of him who sent him. So if the words he was telling us went “his” words, how do you say he “is” the word of God himself. 

ARE you making Jesus out to be a thief? By saying the words he was telling us was “his” words?, and telling us that he was…[Read more]

Proclaimer……OK  let’s do that,   here’s a few straight forward scriptures we can begin with.

John 17:3…..(Jesus said this)…., “And this is life eternal, that they might know you, “the “ONLY” TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent” . 

1Ti 2:5…..For there is “One” God, and  “one” mediator between God and men the “MAN” Christ…[Read more]