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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer…..The Anointing Spirit is the Nature of God, Jesus did have that , after he had recieved it, at the age of around 30, so yes he then did exist with the Nature of God from that point on. But he did use that to try to make himself equal with God, which he could have as I explained if the had a mind to. I even gave you a scripture that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Edj…..So how does that make Jesus any different then we are. “call no man your father upon the earth , for one is you Father who is in heaven. So being that God is my Father also, can I also like Jrsus say I am the son of God? The exact same as Jesus, yes or no please.
Your preaching of Jesus being a God/man is a false teaching. Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer…… the verse you are quoting is a highly contested one, years ago I studied it in detail, from different scholars, and the most sound one I believe said, it should be read as saying , when Jesus was on this earth he had the nature of God , but did not try to make himself equal with God by robbing God of his Glory. But instead t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 6 months ago
Edj…..if God took the exact DNA OF YOU, and implanted it in a woman , would that make him your progeny, Seening his DNA WAS EXACTLY LIKE YOURS.
Jesus also told us this, Luke 23:9…… call “no man”, your father upon the earth, for one is your Father which is in heaven.
Now if Jesus told me to call to “no man” my father upon the earth,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer…..So you continue to force text to say what in fact they, Do not say. Where is therca scripture that say being in the nature of God means you youself are a “Devin” being, equal to a God. Do you think by you not understanding what the word “nature” really means , that gives you right to force the text to say what it in fact doe…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…….Bottom line is you haven’t a clue what your talking about , unable to produce any specific scriptures tbat back up what you are saying , while all the time denying what JODI and I have been posting from “directly quoted solid Scriptures” . Bottom line Edj m you like many others are not about the truth , but about TRIDITIONS you “assume…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
JESUSE,was never a “devine” being Made into Flesh, where is that exactly written inc scriptures at? Please Don’t give us your privite inturpitions either. Show a single scripture that say Jesus “was” a “DEVINE” being before he came into his existence in the flesh.
Peace and love to you and yours……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Carmel…..So now your telling us that God the Father offered himself and died. If God died t h e who raised the “man” Jesus up from the Grave?
You make Jesus equal with God the Father, but Jesus said GOD THE FATHER “IS GREATER THE HIM”, and by the way , was Moses Also equal to God the Father in your eyes, after all did not he do some even gr…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Carmel…..You make bold statements, like the Father could not do it without Jesus, but Jesus disagrees with you, he said, “all things” are possible with God” , it’s simply amazes me how you think you know more then even Jesus does.
“O” what a Web we weave, when we first “practice to decieve”.
Repent Carmel, and quite trying to move Jesus …[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…….Eve’s DNA was changed from Adams to produce a “woman”, Which is obvious to anyone different them a Male, it was God who “created them Both, and they both were 100% Flesh beings, not half human and half spirit being as you believe Jesus was. There is not a single human “born of a women” that is half man and half God . Your simply g…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…..was Adam 50% man and 50% God, after all God created him also, and scripture says “Adam the son of God” , So are we to assume Adam was a GOD/MAN too. ? And we also have Scripture that say this” in the “image” of God created he them, male and female created he them. Can we also call ourselves God/men too? Just asking, why seperate Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…..Jesus was not 50% human flesh, he was 100% human flesh. That takes both, the male and female DNA TO PRODUCE, a human being m not Just half of it. I realize you chose to make Jesus a half man and a half God , making a God/man of somekind, but no scripture supports that that. JESUS lived as a 100% human being, died as a 100% human being an…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj……Is that like you saying Jesus is a “Godman”. Where is that written in scriptures?
You are right about a coma, changing a texts meaning, but not nessarly a “parenthesis” , colons and smicolons Sometime a parentheses can be add to clarify and infassis to what is being said. Like this, and bring out quotations “he (Jesus) said”. So th…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…..What Jodi does is, “make clear” her points by using many scripture to support what she is trying to get across, those scriptures clarify her points. Remember what Jesus did when he opened up their minds after he was resurected, he started backwith the “prophets” to show clearly who he was, and why he had to suffer death and ex…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The FIRST EPISTLE of CLEMENT to the CORINTHIANS. in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj…… very good post, Clement magnified God the Father, He said, “and they walked in accordance with the laws of God.” And again “if you will turn to me and say God our Father” Edj….it’s all about faith and obediance to God the Father, who said,
1….“You shall have “no other” God besides me.”, “you shall “not” make “any” image of me…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Carmel……Simple, it was his faith in his and our God, is that not what he examplified throughout all his life on this earth?
He is “the way” , not the “it” , God the Father is the it. God the Father gave Jesus eternal life and give us eternal life also. it doesent matter who he does it through it still is him that give it to us and t h e one…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
<strong style=”font-style: italic;”>Jodi, spot on!, no one could ask for a better description of what it means to be anointed then you just gave. Maybe some here can now see better what it means to be anointed by God , and that being anointed was not just “exclusive” to Jesus but God Anointed all his Chosen ones, even before he anoin…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Carmel…..You said the only time Jesus called then his “brethern” was when he said it to Mary. But scriptures tell us this.
Act 7:3…..”This is that Moses, which said unto the childern of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord you God raise up unto you of (from) your brethern. Like unto me; him shall you hear.”
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj….So you interpret scripture as saying Jesus was a savior at birth, even though he hadn’t died for anyone’s sins yet, and he was already sitting on the kingdom of his Father David at birth, even though that still hasn’t happened yet even to this day, and won’t happen until he returns to this earth. No to mention all the many, many, many, s…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Edj….yes, all who are anointed with the Spirit are Messiahs (anointed ones) of God. We are not “the” “Messiah Jesus, if that is what you are thinking. But all anointed of God “are” his anointed ones his Sons , like Jesus. they have the “spirit’ or ‘SPERMA” of God their Father in them to.
The better Question for you, is why do you and…[Read more]
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