Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
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everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternityHi Jodi
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of…[Read more]
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi T8,
Jesus was conceived of Mary.
If something preexisted it was not Jesus.
That’s right Nick,
Only Jesus’ spirit came from eternity. (Micah 5:2)
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God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
T8: The Holy Spirit came upon Mary.
Did the son come upon himself to reproduce himself in the flesh?
What strange teaching is this.
EDJ: Hi T8,
Yes, the spirit of Christ united with his father’s spirit at Jordan.
So the Holy Spirit that came upon Mary was the Father’s own spirit and the Spirit of Christ merged wit…
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
The Holy Spirit came upon Mary.
Did the son come upon himself to reproduce himself in the flesh?
What strange teaching is this.
Hi T8,
Yes, the spirit of Christ united with his father’s spirit at Jordan.
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God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Yes the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.
We will come to him. Jn 14.23
Wow Nick,
Pretty Good!
“Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name, and what is his…[Read more]Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
Yes the book details the work of the Spirit of God, done through men, in ridding heaven of evil,
and wresting control of the earth from the hands of the devil and his demonic hordes.
Hi Nick,
It’s always good to see when we agree!
Glad you got your voice back here.____________
God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Yes Gene,
The bible is a spiritual book dealing with the “now”.
It is Not about telling futuristic physical events
like the systems of religion and traditions of men
teach that make void the word of God. (Col.2:21-22).We are instead eradicating the evil spiritual
control that Lucifer has had on planet Earth._______________
Your brother
in…[Read more]Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Some standing here will not taste of death, UNTILL they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
No comment Nick?
Good verses Jodi!
I agree with a lot of what you believe
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God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
’The rich man died and went to Hades..’
But you say he, as his spirit, went back to God?
Hi Nick,
Shaool was talking to believers when he said:
“to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord”
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God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Thanks for your clarification question, you said
“You cannot be absent from the body when you are in the body.
Please explain how you can possibly believe that ???”
Having or not having a body has nothing to do with being able to be present (at home) with the Lord. Angels have bodies, Jesus was resurrected and sits at God’s right…
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Edj….In the spirit. If your thinking is on earthly things, you are (mentally) “in” the flesh, if you are in the spirit your (mental) thinking is spritual, and therefore you are in the spirit. But it takes the spirit of God to be spiritually minded, remember, “SPIRIT BEGETS SPIRIT”, “FLESH BEGETS FLESH”. those who are spirit minded beget…
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You cannot be absent from the body when you are in the body.
Please explain how you can possibly believe that ???
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God bless
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
A person following Christ is not in the flesh (this too is spiritual it means that you do not follow mortal weak flesh, your not in the flesh it is NOT your home, rather you are at home with the Lord through His Spirit.
Hi Jodi,
Perfect! I agree with this completely!
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Your brother
in Christ
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick, Gene is right:
…the soul is the body WITH its spirit.
Glad you understand the obvious Gene!_______________
Your brother
in Christ
Ed JEd J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
You say that the spirit is the essence of a man.
Any scriptures?
Hi Nick,
Thank you for providing the Scripture…
Hi Ed,
‘The body without the spirit is dead’Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
The body is dead, you are absent from your body, if you are IN the Spirit then you are at home with the Lord. This is all spiritual, as their bodies aren’t literally dead, it represents that they have FAITH in God and they do not have faith in their own flesh, you are sick of your weak corruptible flesh you long for a new uncorruptible body that d…
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
In the days of his flesh and after fulfilling the sign of Jonah, Jesus said.
‘A spirit does not have flesh and bones as I have’
(1)But you think you are a spirit?
The Spirit of MAN returns to God at death according to scripture.
(2)Do you think this means all sinners return to God BEFORE the final judgement?
(3)If so do the…
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Ed J, explain how your understanding makes any sense given these scriptures above?
Do you realize what this is saying Ed J and how it relates to 2 Corinthians 5?
Hi Jodi,
You have a lot of stuff posted
but the point you are trying to make is not coming through.So I would ask:
explain how your understanding makes any sense____________
God…[Read more]Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
(1)Body, soul and spirit according to 1thess 5.23.
But you add MIND and say you are the spirit?
(2)Ecc 12 says man’s spirit returns to God at death.
But you think that means the man himself?
(3)Salvation of the soul is the purpose of faith. 1 Peter.
But somehow you think it is the human spirit?
Hi Nick,
1) Is your mind not part of y…[Read more]
Ed J replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed,
‘….And the spirit returns to God Who gave it’
‘ To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.’
These mean the same thing to you?
Hi Nick,
Yes
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