If that happens again I’ll get a screen capture or just copy the message. It essentially said that it was preventing me from posting because of a danger to my system. I’m not even sure if you would call an IOS a system!

T8, how do you have a headwind and a tailwind in an atmosphere that is moving in one direction only?

Thanks admin, if it gets to be an issue I’ll have to try that. I’m usually pretty careful trying to proofread the copied section to make sure I have it right but once in a while… stuff happens.

I was getting a warning message that would not allow me to post last night and earlier today. I opened up a new window to try that but it did the same…[Read more]

Lightenup: “Do you also agree that those that dwell in heaven were created after the heaven was prepared, i.e. the angels?”

You know that’s a great question and one that I have thought about before. My answer is I don’t know but I do wonder about it.

I believe it goes somewhat to the nature of God. In His eternal existence at some point He…[Read more]

Lightenup, I totally meant to quote you correctly. But as the iPad and Internet would have it, it didn’t come out that way. I would never try to intentionally misquote you.

Having said that, I believe my point is valid but just a small point to be added to your post.

I can copy and paste the entire post sometimes and it doesn’t “copy” the entire…[Read more]

Lightenup: “The unformed and void heaven and earth and day and night were created on day one. Light was brought”

I agree, although the firmament (heavens) were not spread out until the second day.

T8: Gravity vs air resistance

And what about the outside of the car or plane? The outside of the plane or car is the outside of the earth and atmosphere is the point I think. The atmosphere is being influenced by the earth’s gravity like the air inside the car is influenced by the local conditions inside the car, not outside the car. If you s…[Read more]

Lightenup: “The unformed and void heaven and earth and day and night were created on day one. Light was brought forth on day one, not created. The created lights came on day 4.”

Sounds pretty good. Why do I feel like I’m being set up?

T8: “But the point is if you are inside the car, you essentially have the atmosphere contained and can throw the ball in the air and catch it as if you were stationary.”

And what about the outside of the car or plane? Imagine an airplane flying against a 1,000 mph headwind. Now imagine an airplane flying with a 1,000 mph tailwind. Do you think…[Read more]

Nick:”You guys should know. You are making straight lines out of circumferences all day long.”

Nick, can you give one quote where we have done that?

If not then you are … ignored!

Nick, there’s always one in every debate forum. One that is there to only cause confusion and dissent. I’m not saying who that “someone” is but I would be willing to bet you know him well.

Nick:  “Of course the Hebrew word for LIGHT used in Gen 1. 1-5 is not the same as the Hebrew word for LIGHT in Gen 1. 1-14”

Do you stop to think about what you are saying? Gen. 1:1-5 overlaps Gen 1:1-14. Please back up your assertion with the proper Strongs concordance or something as accepted by Hebrew scholars.

Come on Nick, don’t just t…[Read more]

T8, the circumference of a circle is the distance around it. How you can get a straight line out of that I’m not sure.

Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.

Lightenup: “Thanks for the video. That was terrific, simple and clear. The earth is a globe!”

So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth but it doesn’t have an effect on planes flying in different directions?  If it is rotating 1,000+ mph in one direction how then could it not have an effect on a plane flying in the opposite…[Read more]

Ed: “Because the stars and moon are seen at NIGHT (day 4) and because you need the sun to have the first DAY (day 1)”

You know, whatever you want to believe, simply believe it. I’ll stick to the Word of God.

Ed: “1) That is hypothetically true, but was not my point. 2) And what source of light are you referring to? God creating himself perhaps? 3) As I said before it could be easily argued the sun was Created on day one – MAKING A DAY and Day 4 merely a reiteration the sun and earths rotation mentioned on day one. DAY 1 “And God said, Let there be…[Read more]

T8, I think I’ll save my million dollars. But since you’re close why don’t you go for it?

I will say that your point is well taken and I don’t have an answer as of yet. Kudos for putting some real thought into this!

Ed: “And if the day can be 1000 years long what of your personal interpretation of morning and evening?”

It is not my personal interpretation, it is what is simply stated. How about your personal interpretation? Do you have another meaning for morning and evening? Or day 1,2,3, etc.?

At most I think a “day” could mean a lifetime or a…[Read more]

Ed: “You need the sun and rotation of the Earth for a Day and Night – according to the Heliocentric model of course That means the first 3 DAYS …and what is said in DAY 1 seems to fit the bill”

Hi Ed, you don’t need the rotation of the earth for a day if the sun is revolving over a stationary earth. You also don’t need the sun for a day if…[Read more]