@desiretruth

You

Beginning in verse 1 we find a man Agur is speaking to two others (Ithiel and Ucal) and claiming to the most ignorant man. Then he proceeds to ask a series of questions in verse 4:

me

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath…[Read more]

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You think that the Trinity Doctrine is wrong and I agree with you on that.

But you also seem to think that rejecting the Trinity Doctrine means that you need to reject Jesus as existing with divine nature in heaven before emptying himself and coming in the flesh. Why do you need to reject that? The Trinity teaches that Jesus is God…[Read more]

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#10 doesn’t make sense, Jesus was in heaven at creation as God’s son, came to earth and became a man, only to return to heaven as the son again? Please clarify.

Why doesn’t it make sense?

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has…[Read more]

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As the saying goes, tell a lie long enough and it will become truth.

I agree.
The lying freemasons are even in our christian circles.
What are they doing?
Well, 1 John 2:23 explains it very well:
Whoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father.
Of course, this works both ways:
Whoever denies the Father, the same has not the…[Read more]

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You

What “bad thought” am I creating in you?

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You to me

….and affirm by speaking to them that HE was seeking their advice on how to create man. Nowhere in these verses does it say this is you.👉 This is twisted and polluted thinking!👈

Me

I NEVER SUGGESTED THIS.
ON THE CONTRARY, I SAID THAT THE ANGELS HAVE NOTHING TO SEE FOR T…[Read more]

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Come on, let’s restart from zero

The first chapter of the first book of the Bible mentions the presence of the Son of God with the Father.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness….

LET US MAKE MAN….

You think that God speaks to the angels, I do not believe it because the angels collaborated in…[Read more]

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I will challenge you or anyone to scripturally prove Christ preexistence in the old testament. Why do you believe what you believe? Take a stand.

No one has ever proven
that Christ did not pre-exist.
The proofs that he pre-existed exist, but they are denied purely and simply. And that is the work of the Enemy of Souls.

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You

The flaw with your assertion is Christ ministry wasn’t to “stomp” people like one does in a wine press (put it all into context). God is judging Edom in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Malachi; and in the book of Revelation, God is judging mankind. 

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You Say :

and in the book of Revelation, God is judging mankin…[Read more]

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You

You may disagree with my statement referred to, but looking at the previous verse “…He has names written and a name written which no one knows but himself.” (WEB) Most translations don’t have “has written names”; however, I find it interesting that it is inserted here. Who is known by more than one name? God or Jesus? What is…[Read more]

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I partially agree with you that Revelation 19:13 refers to Isaiah 63:2,3 but I must say that it is about Christ and not about God the Father.

It is actually a prophecy about Christ, 

1) his earthly ministry up to the cross when he was made sin for us. 

👉”I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with m…[Read more]

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You

You said, “I do not rely on these verses for the origins of Jesus…” Even though it states in virtually every translation Christ was “foreknown”, “foreordained”, or “before known”. By rejecting the content of these verses and the meaning of foreknown, it would mean those in Rom 8:26 all existed in heaven before beginning this li…[Read more]