@T3

Slightly confused with your response as it has nothing to do with our previous conversation; which addressed the heart of everything the NT is dependent upon, Jesus being the “messiah.” If the Jesus is the “messiah”, did he fulfill everything the Tanakh said the Messiah was to do? If the Jesus didn’t fulfill what the Tanakh said he was to do…[Read more]

@Berean,

Moses used blood to seal the covenant between God and the Israelite’s and nothing more; to keep asking the same question isn’t going to change my response. The plain words written say only that. It’s christianity that wants there to be more to help support its idolatry; I say idolatry, because anything that comes between you and God I…[Read more]

@Berean,

You: For me this blood symbolized the blood of Christ for the erasure of sins (ultimate goal)

Me: This is a fascinating response, your personal belief overrides the words written. Even though the sprinkling of the blood was to solidify a vow, a covenant between God and the Israelite’s and has nothing to do with atoning for anything, y…[Read more]

@Berean,

Let me point out, in nothing you wrote did you explain anything; you asked three questions and exclaimed “THE POINT IS THERE” as if by reading one verse I now have the full understanding of what you’re trying to convey. Has the intelligence of people really dropped this much? Do we not understand a conversation is a series of answe…[Read more]

@Berean,

You copy and pasted a bunch of verses, offered zero explanation or what they mean to you, AND most importantly, you asked no question. Explain what exactly am I suppose to respond to? Your pointy fingers!??! I have said in the past “pointy fingers” do NOT explain what is going on in your mind and I cannot interpret them to know what your…[Read more]

@Gene,

You keep running away from this question, where/when did God say the Messiah was to die for the “purpose of” and/or “because of” the sins of the world and to be this propitiation on behalf of mankind to appease HIS wrath against you? It really doesn’t matter if the Jesus took on the sins of the world or not and settled the debt of sin or…[Read more]

@Proclainer,

Proclaimer, you’re off on a tangent, slide back over and explain what the purpose of Jesus’s death was; why did he have to die? Why did God send his human begotten son as a sacrifice “for” the sins of mankind, when HE is against human sacrifices?

@Gene,

You: What Jesus did was to “demonstrate” to us all, what it takes to have a right relationship with God the Father.

Me: This still doesn’t answer the question, how does death create a right relationship with God? God never said to die for your sins to be in a “right relationship” with him, only to repent and turn from your them, AND to fo…[Read more]

@Gene,

What then was the point of Jesus’ death? Why did Jesus say he had to die?

@Gene,

If the Jesus died for the “purpose of” and “because of” the sins of the world, but didn’t “pay off” any sin debt, what was the point of his death? I thought the Jesus was the “unblemished sacrificial lamb” that “atoned for the sins of the world”; this “sin sacrifice” didn’t pay anything off? At least the bull did.

Also, explain how a p…[Read more]

@Danny,

Did God ever speak of heaven being a place you go when you die?

As I have been reading the Tanakh it would seem God is speaking to his creation of the now, how we are to live with each other, but more importantly, how we are to serve God. Of course there are prophecies that deal with future human events; but, what I haven’t found are p…[Read more]

@Gene,

Concerning the usage of “messiah” or “anointed one” I agree it could be used interchangeably, but the KJV translates “mashiach” as “anointed one” everywhere else EXCEPT here in Daniel. The translators then add the definite article “the” before messiah and capitalize the “m” creating a proper noun that give the appearance to be pointi…[Read more]

@Gene,

In the three examples you gave, each have a different way they are used and cannot be interchanged without changing the context of what is being said. Is the usage of the word “for” being used as a “purpose” or “because of”; the context of the sentence will tell you.

In the example “Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scri…[Read more]

@Gene,

You have to be kidding me with your last response, if I would have done what you asked me to do and looked up the word “for” I would have discovered it can have the meaning of “purpose of.” I’m beginning to wonder if your mental faculties are all there.

Concerning a discussion on Daniel chapter 9, why would I go into any depth speaking…[Read more]

@Danny,

Not worried since God never spoke of a place of eternal torment. Christianity says God loves you very much, but if you’re not interested go to hell…forever!

I see you didn’t find a passage in the Tanakh that says believing in the Messiah brings salvation…typical “I believe button” christian.

Since you believe in a place of eternal…[Read more]

@Danny,

Find me a passage in the Tanakh that says believing in the Messiah brings salvation.

Why does someone not escaping prison suddenly bring another to the point of wanting to be “saved”? Did the jailer suddenly know what it meant to be “saved”? Instead of repeating sound bites or words on an inspirational poster, you need to be asking…[Read more]

@Danny and Gene,

For Jesus to be of the tribe of Judah and “root/offspring” of David, his daddy had to be a biological descendant of David and Solomon (God said it). Is Jesus’ biological father of the line of David? According to both Matthew and Luke, Jesus’ daddy is the spirit. This makes Jesus a demigod (offspring of a god and mortal), like the…[Read more]

@Gene,

Seriously, you’re telling me to look up what “for” means?!?!? You suddenly have an epiphany and come up with “for” meaning purpose; how about going back a few posts and actually read what I wrote. Because I said “for” introduces a purpose!!!! Then you change from “BECAUSE” to “in place of”?!?!?!? What are you doing?!?!?!

You go o…[Read more]

@Gene,

The verse explicitly says “died for our sins”, not “because of”. What verse(s) am I speaking of? I Cor 15:3, Gal 1:4, I John 2:2, I John 4:10, Heb 2:17, I Pet 2:24, Rev 1:5. When reading these verses I didn’t find, “because of.” Besides, didn’t Jesus say he willingly laid down his life and what was the purpose (in bold for your enjoyment)…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: Your still setting things to your time frame, but not God’s.

Me: Site the passage where God said the Messiah was to come and not do or be anything HE said the Messiah was to do or be; BUT, will do and be a second time. Didn’t find that passage either; why, because it doesn’t exist. I haven’t place anything in a “time frame”; I…[Read more]