@Gene,

Then I propose the question to you again; but this time take a moment and answer it.

What does the OT say about the Messiah; who will he be and what will he do when he arrives, does this match the Messiah of the NT? Is the Jewish Messiah the same as the Christian Messiah?

You keep telling me by rejecting Jesus I have rejected God; this…[Read more]

@Jodi,

We can continue to debate what we believe is truth and write long explanations trying to prove our side of the “truth”; but the bottom line is what does the OT say about the Messiah; who will he be and what will he do when he arrives, does this match the Messiah of the NT? If you have found a passage to support the NT Messiah in the OT,…[Read more]

@Carmel,

You:

“Hi Desiretruth,

You: God was forgiving mankind without the need or help of a messiah figure.

Me: THEN WHAT?

You: God forgave without the need for “blood” since HE was looking for a truly repentant heart.

Me: THEN WHAT?

You: So the question still remains, what need does anyone have with Jesus?

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,
In response to post #945105

You quoted me:
“God said he is our salvation, not that I have to go through another. God said to repent, turn from your wickedness, and your sin will be remembered no more. God said HE had no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but desired they turn from their wickedness and live. What god do you s…[Read more]

@Berean,

Is it possible for the old testament to be wrong?

Is it possible for the new testament to be wrong?

@Danny,

I hate when people misquote others; but when I am misquoted it allows me the liberty to have a little “fun.”

What you are quoting is from post #944944 and maliciously left off the rest of what I said; I will quote for you the entire statement:

“I came here to ask questions and present thoughts concerning those questions; hoping to b…[Read more]

@Gene,

I seriously have no idea where you are going with this history lesson concerning Israel; both kingdoms where evil and subsequently dispersed (exiled). At the end of the age the Jewish people will be brought back to the land promised, united, and will be one people again.

What’s your point?

@Gene,

Not sure where you’re quoting (references are key) when you said “God said to them He would send a sword after ten wherever they went.” The closest I could find was in Jeremiah 24; but, God was speaking of destroying King Zedekiah and those left in Judah after being exiled to Babylon. God wasn’t speaking of destroying all of Israel since H…[Read more]

@Nick,

You: “Thinkers, like yourself, have got to commit intellectual suicide”

Me: So I am suppose to give up my skills of reasoning when it comes to understanding what is said in the NT, this characteristic that God implanted in me – which God also has because I am created in HIS image – and blindly follow the words of man?

You hit it last nig…[Read more]

@Gene,

The verse posted again for reference:

Matt 10:23 “Whenever they persecute you in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”

You mention the House of Israel but not the House of Judah; this is the northern and southern kingdoms respectively. Yes…[Read more]

@Nick,

And you still can’t answer a question; your inability to answer what I have asked makes your silence deafening.

All I have done is read words on a page and when the words don’t align, it creates questions. For you, it’s okay and you blindly accept them without question because someone told you it was “the spirit who wrote the scriptures…[Read more]

@Nick,

How was Jesus a descendant of David when Jesus’ daddy was the spirit? Same question I asked Carmel and received some spiritualized nonsense for a response. When the OT explicitly states the Messiah was to be of the seed (zera) of David; what say you?

As one continues reading this Timothy passage, Paul states Jesus is risen from the dead…[Read more]

@Nick,

All I offer are doubts?!? All I have are questions, start answering them!

Then you say to ask for wisdom, look in the mirror! Funny how those accusing others ignore their own advice. Wisdom is the one thing I ask for daily and God has been opening my eyes to the deception called christianity. God said he is our salvation, not that I have…[Read more]

@Nick,

You: I have no wish to partake in your games of confusion as My God is not a God of confusion…

Me: Isn’t that precious as you pull out your God card, yet you will believe what you are told is truth without ever verifying what you have been told IS truth. I simply quoted what Jesus said and questioned it; you accuse me of playing g…[Read more]

@Nick,

Why, why, why indeed; if only you could answer a question or two verses running away. How about you take a crack at answering what I asked Gene. Won’t hold my breath as you don’t like questions, you just like telling people what they should believe.

@Carmel

In reference to post #944977, one word is all you need and that is “zera”; I have been over this word before and is a reference to descendants, one who is procreated, something produced after it’s own kind. This is the term used in the OT to reference who the Messiah will be, the seed of David. In other words in the lineage of David…[Read more]

@Gene,

First verse, Jesus explicitly stated to those he was speaking to would never finish going through the towns of Israel before he returned. What are we to make of Jesus’ statement and why no response to this verse? What Jesus stated is a little hard to take in considering at the end of the book of Matthew Jesus says to them to go into all t…[Read more]

@Gene,

Additionally,

You still haven’t explained why I need Jesus when God said to repent, turn, and you sin is remembered no more. When did God add now having to go “through HIS son” to be forgiven? You also haven’t addressed any question from post #944944

Have another verse(s) for you to explain Matt 10:23 “And whenever they persecute you in…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: “Jesus’ “life”, was poured out “by God the Fathers Will”, to demonstrate, I say “DEMONSTRATE”, to us all, what kind of “life”, it takes to please God.”

Me: Explain what kind of “life” did Jesus demonstrate we are to live that is pleasing to God? If it’s just obedience, that’s nothing new – that’s OT. By obeying God’s commands…[Read more]

@Carmel,

If Jesus is conceived of the Holy Spirit, then he is not of the “seed” of David, and therefore is automatically disqualified as being the Messiah. Now what?

You: “NO MAN NO  SPERM! GOD DOESN’T NEED THAT FILTHY SATANIC STUFF!”

Me: Are you saying God’s design and creation is filth!!??!?!?

Are you going to “Hail Mary full of grace”; ho…[Read more]