@Keith,
So you didn’t read the passage in the context it was written and believe only what your religion told you to believe…understood. Hoping you would elaborate on who the “you” is…Oh well, I can’t make you verify anything; you have to want truth verses religion. Remember, I walked the christian lifestyle for 40 years before my eyes where o…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Concerning your second reply to the “ruler of this world”; I asked for proof from the Tanakh NOT the NT. I want where G-d said Satan is the ruler of this world a not man, which is who you quoted.

I thought you knew I’ve rejected the NT entirely from the inconsistencies I’ve pointed out; if you didn’t, now you do. Do you have…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Ezekiel 28 first addresses the ‘prince of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:1-10) and then shifts to address the ‘king of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:11-19).

They are one and the same. Did you find the parallels between both prophecies? Studying is your friend.

The first section about the prince of Tyre is directed at a human ruler who is proud and claims…

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@Keith,

That isn’t proof, that’s called assumptions (or parroting); the text as a whole doesn’t support G-d speaking of Satan, HE is addressing the king HE is about to judge, along with the city because of their corruption/sin.

Did you read beginning in verse 1 or not; did you compare verses 1-10 to verses 11-19 (magically a parallel); did you…[Read more]

@Keith,

Now you’re just making stuff up! It says nothing of the sort…showing the king of Tyre who the fallen angel is?!?!?Thankfully I wasn’t drinking anything because I would have spit it all over my screen. Where did you come up with that and do you seriously believe it?!?!?

Reread 28:11-19 and go verse by verse explaining what’s happening.…[Read more]

@Keith,

WHEN does it change, at the word “cherub”?!?!? Then does it shift back to the king of Tyre? Who is the “you” in this entire passage referring? What your saying doesn’t make sense; either it’s all about Satan or it’s all about the king, it CANNOT be both! Since it begins with addressing the king of Tyre, IT HAS TO BE TO THE KING OF TYRE…[Read more]

@Keith,

When it states–you were in Eden–ALL know 100% the king of Tyre was not in Eden, but its talking about the anointed Cherub=satan.–verse 14 says its the anointed Cherub=in Eden=the fallen angel.

I never stated or implied the king was in Eden; in fact I said he wasn’t, couldn’t have been.  But that’s not even the question or a point of conten…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

I didn’t ask if Satan was the “god” of this world, I asked who the “ruler” of this world is. This distinction makes a huge difference in understanding. I won’t argue against christians MAKING Satan a “god” by applying and projecting all evil onto him, making him the patsy for every evil inclination and sinful act of mankind, and fo…[Read more]

@Keith,

Can’t really asked someone who’s dead; but the ones I quoted are ones used to educate other pastors…soooo.

You still haven’t given me any names of those who support your thesis Ezekiel was speaking of Satan. You still haven’t identified the “you” in the passage. You still haven’t explained why you believe it’s a reference to Satan, oth…[Read more]

@Keith,

What have you explained? You said according to scholars Satan is to be understood in Ezk 28:13; except, I posted the writings of some prominent christian scholars who state the prophecy is about the king of Tyre. I asked who these scholars claiming the passage is a reference to Satan and you gave nothing, provide the proof of your…[Read more]

@Keith,

Continuing to repeat the same verse without explanation doesn’t explain why you believe the passage is a reference to Satan. You stated “scholars” also say this passage is a reference to Satan, please provide the names of said “scholars”; I would like to read their words.

The following are commentaries of notable scholars of yesteryea…[Read more]

@Keith,

What faith do you identify with and please don’t say none, because we all know that isn’t true. If you don’t have a faith you identify with, it means you created a new one and what do you call it?

You are adamant the passage in Ezekiel is a reference to Satan, please explain why you are dead set on it being Satan and not the king…[Read more]

@Berean,

Your latest post from Roman on the “Back to Church Sunday” shows the man is completely out of touch with reality and has done little to no research on the condition of the modern church today. The reality is churches are desperate for people to fill their pews as the number of attenders has fallen dramatically. According to a Pew stu…[Read more]

@Keith,

I know what the Matthew passages says, one is to worship G-d and G-d alone and there is zero argument from me on that statement. The question is who do christians worship, because it isn’t G-d alone. Pick a flavor of christianity and worship is primarily of the Jesus and G-d is secondary, which was my point. If we’re being honest, c…[Read more]

@Berean,

Where does your hate of the Catholic church come from; is it personal views or religious brainwashing? If it wasn’t for the Catholic church you wouldn’t have the faith you have today since all “christian” faith stem from it. Maybe you need to re-read your organizations “Official Statements” concerning Catholicism…[Read more]

@Keith,

I know the writer of the book of Matthew says about the Jesus; the question is, who do christians serve since one can’t serve two masters? Is it G-d or the Jesus?

If you need proof satan is a fallen angel– you do not know God or his truth. The fallen anointed cherub as Ezekial is describing-0 doubt.

You still haven’t provided ANY p…[Read more]

Can one serve two masters?
Light verses Darkness, Truth verses Lies…

As part of the “Sermon on the Mount” the Jesus states “No one is able to serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other.” (Matt 6:24). The truth is that statement is irrefutable; one can’t serve in th…[Read more]

@Kieth,

You do understand G-d is speaking in this passage…right? And G-d is speaking metaphorically; OBVIOUSLY the king of Tyre wasn’t present in Eden, which then confirms you DIDN’T delve into this section of Ezekiel and are parroting what you have been told to believe. When will you, or anyone for that matter, begin to verify what you have…[Read more]

@Keith,

Does reading and comprehension fail you?!?! I couldn’t give a rip what a “scholar” says or thinks; G-d gave me a brain to think for myself and beginning in verse 12 it explicitly states Ezekiel is to give this prophecy to the king of Tyre. If you where to bother delving into this passage you would find G-d is speaking to this king in a…[Read more]

@Kieth,

Satan is the fallen anointed cherub-Ezekial 28:14-18– He had appointed dominion over Eden, its why he was there.

Ahhhhh, you may want to open your bible to Ezk 28 and begin reading from verse 12 verses parachuting into verse 14, because you have missed who G-d was talking about. Let me help you: “Son of man,raise a lament over the king of…[Read more]