DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
I will allow you to continue beating that dead “law” horse; if you can’t comprehend the words written in front of you, that’s a personal problem and you will remain lost in your own ignorance. I will not allow you to drag me into your pit.
I’ve asked you what commands, statutes, and laws God said Abraham kept and you keep running in this…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Consulting the Talmud!?!? That’s not a path I would dare venture down at this point in my studies; I’m wanting to make sure I understand what God said first before trying understand the meanings behind what a bunch of sages debated.
You quoted from Sanhedrin 37b – 38a “Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Exile atones for all transgressions and rende…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
You: DT, has lost his ability to “comprehend “, those thing it appears, by his arrogant, and hatred of brother PAUL.
Me: Seriously!! Are you really this judgmental? Comprehension doesn’t evade me. Arrogance, sometimes, but I don’t believe I’ve ever exhibited it here. Hatred of Paul, I didn’t know Paul personally so how could I hate him? Am…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Let’s keep going and talk about your justification of I Cor 9:20-23; why begin at verse 18, let’s back up to verse 14 where Paul tells the Corinthians he’s not going to take payment from them even though “the Lord directed those who proclaim the gospel to get their living from the gospel.” This is suppose to come from Matt 10:10; the probl…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Response to post 946113
You: Corinth, you’re so wealthy, your so cool, I wouldn’t dare ask anything from you, but get this, ha ha, I am here preaching the gospel to you, by the backs of those poor churches, yah those idiots I make them pay.
Me: Cute! To bad you missed what I was saying. I wasn’t speaking of when “collections” were take…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
No where did you articulate where in the Tanakh God said man is justified by following HIS commands. Answer the question!
You: You don’t call a statue a “LAW”
Me: You are correct you don’t call a “statue” a law; but “statutes” are; what are state statutes, if not state law?
Cornell Law School: statute: A statute is a law enacted by…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Nothing in what you wrote supported why Jechoniah should be in the lineage of Jesus, especially when God pulled the kingship authority from him and said he was to be remembered as childless (no matter how many kids he has while imprisoned). This would mean anyone born after him would not have rights to the throne of Judah; AND if his…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Danny,
Oops, somethings wrong with your statement…
Let me fix it for you, “The NT without the OT doesn’t work.” Actually, does the NT really even work?
How can something that came before be dependent on what came after? That was from a 15 year old…out of mouths of babes! That’s like saying the foundation is dependent on the house.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Nothing in what you wrote supported why Jechoniah should be in the lineage of Jesus, especially when God pulled the kingship authority from him and his descendants and said he was to be remembered as childless (no matter how many kids he has while imprisoned). This would mean anyone born after him would not have rights to the throne of…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
You: NOTICE Especially ……Ezekiel 36:27…..notice God says, and “Cause You” to walk in my “STATUES” , and keep my “JUDGMENTS”, and do them.
Notice the word “LAW” , is not used there, why?, because by the way “law” works , can never make our hearts right before God, Just as PAUL SAID……”BY works of “LAW”, (the way law works) no flesh sha…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
The mental gymnastics performed to keep the lineage of Jesus from falling apart is amazing. Except Zerubbabel didn’t sit on David’s throne, he was the governor of Judah. Next!
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
Me: God didn’t create laws that man wasn’t able to do, man chose not to do them and has paid the consequence for that disobedience. Read Deuteronomy Chapter 30.
You: Your above statement contradicts scripture of the OT and it preaches self-righteousness which then you make us into our own gods.
Me: There is nothing in what I said that con…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Danny,
You keep throwing Jesus at me like he is someone needed to get to God, what did God say? I have been told to repent, but no one can tell me of what.
Jechoniah is listed in the lineage of Jesus (Matt 1:11), a name that God said “Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, s…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
You: Paul say that, “LOVE” “FULFILLS ” ALL THE LAW.
Me: Gal 5:14 “For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Don’t know about you, but when I read this it says by loving your neighbor the whole law is fulfilled. As much as you want, you can’t ignore the pesky word “neighbor…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
What’s wrong with Paul? Here are a few verses of Paul and tell me you’re okay with what he says:
II Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them that I might minister unto you; Paul tells the Corinthians he isn’t charging them for his “ministry” to them; he is being so gracious to the wealthier church in Corinth, but took paym…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
Thank you for your none answer to my questions. It was God who said Abraham obeyed HIS commands, statutes, and laws. Your failure to answer what Abraham obeyed tells me you don’t have a clue. I guess I shouldn’t expect an answer to where it states in the Tanakh following the “law” “justified” anyone either? Deut 6:24,25 “Yahweh commanded u…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
You: The actual word there means Gods precepts, translators inserted the word law in error.
Me: Are you saying your infallible King James (along with every other translation) has an error?!?!? Except it’s not an error (KJV has plenty of others to worry about); if you would have looked up the Hebrew of the passage the word you would have f…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
Focus like a laser beam, when I quoted Gen 26:5 God said it was HIS “laws” Abraham obeyed. What “laws” was God saying Abraham obeyed? What commandments? What statutes? Why do you keep deflecting away from this question?
Your last few responses to my comments are a clear indicator that what you believe, you cannot fully support; as I have…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Gene,
You: show me the scripture where it say Abraham keep (kept) Gods “laws”.
Me: Gen 26:5 Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. Or is this not good enough or where you looking for Abraham to be following the Mosaic Law that was given to the people hundreds of years later? Are you saying peo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 1 month ago
@Danny,
The truth is what the truth is; the fact you are unable to accept the truth, means you are the one who hates truth. I showed you Paul is a liar and asked you to explain his words…you couldn’t, but do accept Paul’s lies as truth.
Jesus cannot be the messiah as he is NOT from the seed of David, he was conceived of the spirit.
If Deu…[Read more]
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