Kerwin, I understand why you include most of these. But why luke 2:21?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,14:41)Hi MB,You say”Jesus is a spirit messenger of his God, and therefore an angel by definition.” See how playing with speculation has darkened your mind?Nick, extremely simple question (that you most likely will avoid):The greek and hebrew words that are translated as “angel” and “messenger.”NICK:What do those…[Read more]

Quote Hi MB,Happy to look at any scriptures that say Jesus is an angel or Michael or a lesser god.Nick, what do you mean by the phrase “lesser god” which you use so often?

Quote (david @ Mar. 27 2012,14:36)Jammin, again, I'll ask this simple question:Just so there is no confusion, can you fill in the blanks for me:”And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal…[Read more]

I should include this link that LU posted:http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

Hi Shimmer.Yes, I'm familiar with the idea that:Dec 25 was chosen as the date of Christ's birth because it matched up with the birth of the sun God, and the Roman Saturnalia, and Mithras.But my question is: What precisely is true?Britannica states:”For a time, coins and other monuments continued to link Christian doctrines with the worship of the…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 26 2012,22:14)Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 26 2012,11:43)Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 21 2012,12:04)Is it wrong for the Jews to celebrate Purim?Does no one want to answer if it is okay for the Jews to celebrate this man made holiday?WmDavid,You have spoke against man made holidays, what is your opinion.WmHi Seeking,I have…[Read more]

Quote Hi MB,So angel means messenger.Angels can be called gods.Nick, angel doesn't mean messenger really. The word translated to “angel” is the very same word that is translated “messenger.” The translator gets to decide which is meant. Sometimes, it could go either way.

Jammin, again, I'll ask this simple question:Just so there is no confusion, can you fill in the blanks for me:”And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.”I would think this would be easy…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 26 2012,19:37)david,the apple is green. it is so delicious.what is so delicious?Hi Jammin.I have found that when someone is confronted with something they can't respond to, their brain seems to shut down and they start typing random words. (shout out to Nick! :-)david.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2012,10:38)Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,23:34)If I said this about a person or persons on this forum the words below, what would you think?”get to know the best Debater, and Mike the moderator, whom he sent.”That was a bad example, David – because I AM the best debater!  The thing is Mike, Jammin (or others who think…[Read more]

Yes, this is the most confusing poll ever. You asked two question that might have different answers?Just an example:1. No, it's not helping.2. Yes, it's a distraction.1. Yes, it's helpful.2. No, it's not a distraction.you should really change the question to only include the first question, perhaps.

2 options:Either something supernatural happened.Or, something so highly improbably that it's virtually next to supernatural.Either way, we have have the same basic conundrum.

Quote From what I can tell, birthdays weren't mentioned as being celebrated by the Hebrews. Neither were wedding anniversaries for that matter but does that keep you from celebrating them?1. birthdays weren't mentioned as being celebrated by the Hebrews.2. that keep you from celebrating them.No, that in itself doesn't keep me from celebrating…[Read more]

JESUS IS NOT “JUST AN ANGEL.”The angels are called sons of God (Genesis 6:2-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7), but Jesus is THE Son of God (Hebrews 1:8; Matthew 4:3-6). Again, a differentiation. Yet, a similarity.Jesus is many things. As the “Word” (Greek, lógos), Jesus is God’s messenger par excellence. Remember, too, that as the archangel, as well as “t…[Read more]

….HEBREWS 2:8“All things you subjected under his feet.” For in that he subjected all things to him left nothing that is not subject to him. Now, though, we do not yet see all things in subjection to him;”We know that the scripture quoted says that God subjected all things (including angels) under Jesus feet, and that nothing was not subje…[Read more]

F JESUS IS AN ANGEL, HOW COULD HE HAVE ANGELS UNDER SUBJECTION?If Michael the Archangel is an angel (and no one disputes this) how could he have angels under subjection? (which he clearly does: Rev 12:17)It is a common argument: ‘Jesus can’t be an angel, because he is the leader of the angels.’ That’s like saying “George Bush can’t be a man becau…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,06:49)Hi Mb, So to you he is a lesser god and an angelAre all angels gods?Quote Hi MB,Scripture calls angels and men gods. –Nick, several pages later.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,11:39)Hi MB, Jesus was born in Bethlehem and named after birth. Did you mean the WORD OF LIFE?Definitions of beings in heaven is worse than a wild guess.I just want to be clear on this.Did nick become a trinitarian while he was away?

Quote Jesus CAN'T be Michael!Hebrews 1:4-5 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?Hebrews 1:5 – “For to what…[Read more]