Princess, you, having suggested to gruncher that he may want to try different faiths (other than Christianity) I would like to know what your beliefs are concerning the bible and magic. Or, even just the bible in general. I will perhaps speak much more directly to you, depending on what you already believe.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2012,05:04)Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2012,21:31)Questions:  what do you think they are eating in heaven?  Is the food made up of protein, carbs and fat?   Do they need protein to build muscle?  Carbs for energy?  I don't know WHAT they are eating, only that these spirit beings will be eating.  And “NO” to the rest of the q…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 24 2012,06:31)So the maji or what some call the three wise men (why I don't know) are considered what to you?The unspecified number of magi were chaldean who were looking into the stars and so calling them astrologers seems reasonable. They followed the moving star. Yes, how did they know. I know that today, astrologers…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 24 2012,06:24)Alright, differences noted. So now to determine the difference between magic and majick in the bible. Which format do you prefer, me asking questions or you giving a small brief on the differences in the bible on what is considered magic or majik?All magic in the bible is thought to be magick. But, where fraud…[Read more]

BOOK OF DANIELSomething I've wondered about for a while:In Dan 2:24, Daniel says: do not destroy the wise men of Babylon. (This included all the magick guys, sorcerers, etc). In effect, Daniel prevented all the sorcerers and magicians from being destroyed. He himself of course was viewd as a wise man and would also have been destroyed. After…[Read more]

Looking at the book of Daniel, there are a ton of wise men of all sorts; astrologers, sorcerers, magicians, magic practising priests, etc.In chapter two, for me, it seems like they are pulling CLASSIC fraudulent techniques used today.They cannot tell the king what his dream is. But they are more than happy to interpret it for him, once the…[Read more]

ACTS 13:8-10“But El′y·mas the sorcerer (that, in fact, is the way his name is translated) began opposing them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. Saul, who is also Paul, becoming filled with holy spirit, looked at him intently and said: “O man full of every sort of fraud and every sort of villainy, you son of the Devil, you enem…[Read more]

I think we should begin with definitions.If you go into a large book store, you may well find a small section on “magic” made up of 4 books on card magic, 3 books of puzzles, and this section is usually next to the games section. The book store we have has about 3 or 4 such books in this section that is called “MAGIC”in another room, there is a…[Read more]

Quote And there you have it. It's not that humans CAN'T communicate with demons. It's just that none of them have tried to claim Randi's prize. –mikePlenty of psychics have tried. I as just saying that people that believe they are possessed by a demon are unlikely to try to prove it. They would probably just be escorted to a psychiatric…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2012,05:26)Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,11:39)When the bible says they “did the same thing” you can't take it to mean they did the exact same thing, otherwise they would have been using the power of God.Not the power of God Himself, but supernatural powers like the powers God has (although God has these powers in much…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2012,05:21)Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,11:31)I could also say that you subconsciously probably did know how much change you had in your pockets and you were just accessing your subconscious.  The IDEOMOTOR effect works on the subconscious.  I just read somewhere that the human brain subconsciously takes in 11 ? b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2012,03:43)I will pass on one of my card tricks that anyone can do.1.  Write on a piece of paper:  “The Four Pile”.2.  Take three of the number four cards from the deck, and place them squared up in one pile on the table.  (Face down)3.  Take four sevens (or whatever) and place them squared up in a different pile on t…[Read more]

Quote You seem to be teaching us that “magic tricks” aren't really “magic” – but most of us here already accept that. Where you're going wrong is by trying to prove to us that certain encounters with real demons that some of us have had are also just simple “magic tricks” – carried out by our own deluded minds.I often think of this like Bigfoot…[Read more]

Quote David, I too was taken by “magic tricks” when I was young. I had some “magic” books, and some special card decks, like a Svengali deck. I still remember and use some of those card tricks to this day. And if by chance I catch one of today's great illusionists performing on tv, I am in awe – not at the “magic” they used, but at the extreme…[Read more]

Quote You have pointed out that magicians can manipulate pigeons and snakes to make it APPEAR as if certain things are happening. Okay. But in the case of the staffs turning into snakes, it is said the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts. So if they turned staffs into snakes by fraud, then God also turned Aaron's…[Read more]

Quote So for you to say that because a demon communication hasn't been successfully proven on video means that one hasn't happened is close minded, IMO.Not a closed mind. A mind that understands statistics and probability along with psychology, deception, self deption, ideomotor effect, etc. Highly coincidental events or highly improbable events…[Read more]

MIKES MIRACLEQuote What I do know is that the time I used the Ouija Board, I was skeptical, and so thought of a question that NO ONE in the room would know the answer to – not even myself. I had no idea how much loose change I had in my pocket, much like I have no idea how much is in there right now. Yet the answer was correct, down to the…[Read more]

Quote And let's say the girl in Acts, who accurately predicted the future through the demon who possessed her, went to claim this million dollars. Who's to say the demon would have performed to make her look good in front of millions of people? In most scriptural cases, it seems the demons aren't after the best interests of human beings, so why…[Read more]

Quote 2. I think we all agree that no one here imagines that Parker Brothers insert demons into their Ouija Board product. There are some of us who see the Ouija Board, séances, and the Pendulum, etc., as conduits through which certain people DO communicate with demons, while you believe EACH instance is a hoax. You point out the million…[Read more]

1.  It sounds like you are attributing the effects of the demons that Jesus and his disciples expelled from various people in scripture to the ignorance of an earlier culture.  It seems as if you're saying these people really just had schizophrenia, or some other mental affliction, and that they weren't really possessed by demons.  Is this re…[Read more]