Quote Isn't there something in Levititus about who you are allowed to mate with and who you are not. Which even makes the story even more confusing. You think universally, which is great and which means you will have troubles with the bible. Leviticus came after Cain.  The law came after Cain.  If emporer X has sex with his relative 3000 years a…[Read more]

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Quote (david @ Nov. 26 2012,02:36)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,02:15)Fake.  This has been proven to be fake (a magic trick) several times in several different ways.  YouTube it.  This guy LOVES to edit.  It's what mares him famous.  Many many many magicians hate him. There is one thing about him.  He, like Houdini, like so many magicians befor…[Read more]

Quote You believe this activity existed less than 2000 years ago, right? And there is no scripture that even hints at your claim that these things went away with the death of the Apostles. No, there is a scripture that speaks of the gifts of the spirit being “done away with” and ceasing. The question of when, you may debate if you wish. The…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,02:15)WAKEUP, if you want to see things that will tickle your mind, watch:David copperfield portal.Or,David copperfield laser illusion.

Quote It is true that many people defraud others for monetary gain due to the overwhelming belief in supernatural activity. And that part makes me angry as well. But it would be close-minded of us to conclude that no supernatural activity exists today just because we're aware that in many cases, greed and deception are the culprits.Mike, Ok.…[Read more]

Quote But for you, one man, having studied this for such an insignificant amount of time, to rule out all supernatural activity just because you personally haven't uncovered any during your research, is close minded, IMO.You keep saying I am closed minded.I WILL CHANGE MY MIND UPON BEING SHOWN ONE PIECE of real magic.Will you ever change your…[Read more]

Quote You have studied (and maybe even invented) some very ingenious methods of creating grand illusions designed to entertain and impress others.I wouldn't say “grand”. Everything I invented, are just variations of things that already existed. I “independently” invented something that someone invented in the 1950's. was quite upset when I…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,02:15)Fake. This has been proven to be fake (a magic trick) several times in several different ways. YouTube it. This guy LOVES to edit. It's what mares him famous. Many many many magicians hate him. There is one thing about him. He, like Houdini, like so many magicians before him, are ready to fight anyone that…[Read more]

CONSIDER THIS:Hundreds of times I have read articles where a person is praying for help, perhaps in tears, looking for God, and then, guess who knocks on the door?This is understood to be somewhat miraculous, a proof that God is at work, guiding them to honest hearted ones, who are seeking out truth.What are the chances that a person would be…[Read more]

Quote david, kerwin made a good point.It seems obvious that your perception in this topic is completely altered by your belief that certain things have ended.So God ends the gifts and stomps on demon activity so that it no longer exists, and yet the gifts appear to continue after they supposedly were meant to stop, so they are no longer of God,…[Read more]

Quote Likewise an Atheist can make the same argument. He has never experienced God and has no understanding of him and that too is likely perpetuated by his unbelief.Somewhere along the way, you have to take a step of faith to even open the door. Otherwise if you do not seek, the door will not open either. T8, if you are speaking a out seeking out…[Read more]

It is the greatest irony that for the magician, the one who loves magic the most, there is no magic.

Quote (david @ Nov. 26 2012,01:30)Quote In other words I just accept what God has done for me, while you cannot step over the stumbling block of believing that these things have ended and are not relevant today. This belief of yours reinforces itself with self-perpetuating evidence in your perception because non-belief means you don't see any sign…[Read more]

Quote In other words I just accept what God has done for me, while you cannot step over the stumbling block of believing that these things have ended and are not relevant today. This belief of yours reinforces itself with self-perpetuating evidence in your perception because non-belief means you don't see any sign because you have not faith in the…[Read more]

Quote For me, God has spoken to me and demonstrated things to me in a powerful way and who am I to deny that which God has graciously given me.“For ME, I FEEL…” The trinity is true. For me, I feel X, whatever. It bothers me very time I hear such things. Anecdotal.I think it's time to explore the human mind.

Quote It beats me why you even believe anything in scripture as scripture is mainly experiences with God written down for our benefit. But then again, if you are doctrinally convinced that such things have ended, then it is this belief that shapes your perception, meaning for you it is indeed a matter of perception as you say.It was odd to me how…[Read more]

Quote For you to be fair given your own perception, by all rights you should also conclude that John was never taken up and never saw the River of Life. You would have to conclude that Job never experienced the wrath of Satan on his family because you neither believe that these things happen to people like me, mike, or Job.So you are really just…[Read more]

Quote david you believe that because you are into magic and see how it works and at the same time you have never had an experience/vision from God. So your judgement is completely based on your own very limited experience of reality.Not exactly true. I truly believe, understand, believe with my very core, that anecdotal evidence (although…[Read more]

Quote Irrelevant argument because you are describing a particular thing that is not likely to be exactly replicated. It is the greater issue of demons and their activity that we are debating.That may be what you are debating. I have repeatedly said that is not what I am debating. I am only speaking about TODAY and what is reality TODAY. I am…[Read more]