On page 1 of “faith and works” thread, Nick said to t8:”You misunderstand t8. Yes we need faith, yes we need works..but they are not what saves us but obedience to the simple demands that faith leads us to.”I'm not really sure where we've been discussing this Nick, but time and again I've been trying to highlight the fact that if you are truly one…[Read more]

PROVERBS 2:21-22“For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.”

Elijah,I'd like to start by saying that, what you know and believe is fascinating to me.I'm wondering how many people subscribe to your thoughts on baal gad = lord god.Because if it's just you, I'm wondering how Jehovah is going to use you to help others to hear this? I mean, Jehovah is just. He's not going to destroy people without giving them…[Read more]

Elijah,I'd like to start by saying that, what you know and believe is intriguing.Elijah, something just occured to me. I'm wondering how many people subscribe to your thoughts on baal gad = lord god.Because if it's just you, I'm wondering how Jehovah is going to use you to help others to hear this? I mean, Jehovah is just. He's not going to…[Read more]

I've sometimes struggled with how far this can be taken.For example:The days are based on gods.The months are based on gods.Even something as simple as a ring, wedding rings for example.There are a lot of things that have pagan backgrounds.My question:Where do we draw the line. david

Hey t8. Nice instument of death you have in your hands there. Well chosen.Just kidding. Actually, I like your avatar too. I need a better one.Anyway, if you think “Jehovah's Witnesses are like any other denomination,” you haven't been around very long. The trinity seems to be where this website started. As you should know, we don't believe…[Read more]

Right. I'm a little sleepy.

humble. Nice.

I know. I was just trying to lighten the mood.I only have it in English and Spanish. Funny thing, I don't speak a word of Spanish. I have about 9 of the English ones though. And other versions.It's odd that you have Insight books though. How did you get those?

ok….

Yes, Eccl 12:6 is a very beautiful poetic scripture.We are urged to remember our Creator “before the silver cord is removed, and the golden bowl gets crushed, and the jar at the spring is broken, and the waterwheel for the cistern has been crushed.” (Ecclesiastes 12:6) The “silver cord” may be the spinal cord. Death is certain when this marvelo…[Read more]

So, Elijah, I'm cancelling your subscription to the Watchtower and Awake.Sorry.dave

But yours is cool. Mine is this guy with scary eyes that actually freaks me out a little. you have this mysterious hat head down book smarts kind of look going on.

In the Sciptures, “soul” is translated from the Hebrew ne´phesh and the Greek psy·khe´. Bible usage shows the soul to be a person or an animal or the life that a person or an animal enjoys.

I agree with Elijah on the timing of the second death. So do the scriptures.Notice the many many many sciptures above that refer to “soul” as something that can be “killed,” “destroyed,” etc.

The word “soul” in the scriptures, is not completely black and white.Matthew 10:28 states that God “can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.” This shows that psy·khe´ does not refer to something immortal or indestructible. There is, in fact, not one case in the entire Scriptures, Hebrew and Greek, in which the words ne´phesh or psy·kh…[Read more]

Elijah, I'd like to start by saying that, what you know and believe is fascinating to me.Elijah, something just occured to me. I'm wondering how many people subscribe to your thoughts on baal gad = lord god.Because if it's just you, I'm wondering how Jehovah is going to use you to help others to hear this? I mean, Jehovah is just. He's not…[Read more]

Nick, I want your avatar. I don't like mine.

I know I'm doing the exact opposite of what I recommended. but eventually I would have put all these scriptures somewhere on this forum. I thought, why not put them all in the same spot. Also, I need time to catch up to everyone else, so you can read this over while I'm reading what's been posted in the last day.

Where are the dead?Gen. 3:19: “In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”Eccl. 9:10: “All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol , the place to which you a…[Read more]