Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2013,18:58)Quote (david @ July 21 2013,14:23)Quote  “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee:    he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, AND upon a colt the foal of an ass.”  (Zech 9:9)        The KJ seems to be about the only bible…[Read more]

Not really. To me it seems the only alternative though. I don't know that it can be argued or that there is any point in arguing it. I dont know what the argument is for it, other than it seems slightly less unlikely to me than alternatives. What is the argument against it?

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 21 2012,19:06)Quote (david @ Feb. 21 2012,20:31)What is this stuff about the numbers?   And, on an unrelated topic, does .999… equal exactly and precisely 1?  Algebra suggests it does.I have been debating with Stu over the 3 possible options for how the universe got there.1) God2) Nothing3) Something eternal but not aware or i…[Read more]

Hi mike. In the latter half of your post, you say many things I hadn't considered and that I now have to research. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of weeks of research on other topics and I don't want to stray from that research.

Quote Which scripture tells us they are “false” gods? (Hint: There isn't a single scripture in the entire Bible that speaks of any “false god” or “so-called god”. These phrases were ADDED to the scriptures by men, and are NOT in the original texts.)I still find this unbelievable. But it certainly would add to the idea that there are no false…[Read more]

Ya I know. I've been struggling with the same idea. Is a fake god a false god?All JW for example know that god means “mighty one, powerful one” but they still believe satan is a false god, and yet, they would also say he is quite powerful (mighty)It's because 99% of the time that we refer to god it is to Jehovah, so we have all these ideas about…[Read more]

Quote “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, AND upon a colt the foal of an ass.” (Zech 9:9) The KJ seems to be about the only bible with the “and” in there. It doesn't seem to be in the Hebrew. Tha…[Read more]

Sorry, just noticed this was for mike and Thomas. Mike, delete my comments.

Quote Which scripture tells us they are “false” gods? (Hint: There isn't a single scripture in the entire Bible that speaks of any “false god” or “so-called god”. These phrases were ADDED to the scriptures by men, and are NOT in the original texts.)Could you expand on this. I've been thinking about the “false god” thing. I think most everyone…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,19:16)Hi, I don't see how any of those are problematic. On the contrary, slight variances in eyewitness accountsonly adds to the overall authenticity of the story. Because forgerieswould certainly make sure that there is no discrepancies in any part of the story.              The man in the video left out my favori…[Read more]

“I think the best way to keep you here, but also lift up the discussions in the Believers Place by not allowing you to promote your propaganda is to create a new area called 'Crackpots Place'. Would you be happy to be the first member to move there. It would make you a kind of Father once other crackpots joined. You could even be made a moderator…[Read more]

Quote I'm with him in wondering why everyone is Caucasian in that JW book except for the servant girl. Even the Egyptians are depicted as being white folks.I've asked myself that many times. And Jesus is always very Caucasian looking whereas other people around him look slightly Jewish.

The first schools were religious (protestant) and were for indoctrination and obedience training. The schools were well designed for that purpose and still are to a large degree. They went to school so that they could grow up to be good protestants. The schools were filled with stories to induce the fear of god and the fear of authority.…[Read more]

Sadly, you change people's mind, by giving them what they need.

Ok, but jesus is only called the “word” a couple of times in scripture. Whereas “word” is used as I describe countless times, isn't it? Maybe it isn't. I feel like it is. Look up every instance of “word” in scripture. It should be clear they aren't all hidden messages referring to Jesus. I'd imagine 99.99% aren't referring to Jesus. Why…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 23 2013,13:24)“After these things the word of Jehovah came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. And Abram said, O Lord Jehovah, what….”Ok, this does not really seem to be proof of anything. Example:After these things, the word of the president came to me, the…[Read more]

“After these things the word of Jehovah came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. And Abram said, O Lord Jehovah, what….”Ok, this does not really seem to be proof of anything. Example:After these things, the word of the president came to me, the commander, by email, saying: “attack…[Read more]

Maybe it's the word “vision.” A vision is a sight or scene, or message superimposed upon a persons mind while he is awake. I don't believe that a vision has to necessarily involve sight, as if abram saw “the word of Jehovah.”Personification is often used in the bible.

Quote It is by a person's fruit that you know them. Not by the expanse or lack of knowledge. Knowledge is important, but lack of it is not a deal breaker. I'm talking about extreme lack of knowledge. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and the one you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3)If you are…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 21 2013,17:37)You are not a Christian because you read the Bible and knowledge of what is the first book is not what determines a true believer from a pretend one. But yes, not all who say they are something are that something. But we can't apply our own rules.It is by a person's fruit that you know them. Not by the expanse or lack…[Read more]