david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
JOHN 21:4-7“However, just as it was getting to be morning, Jesus stood on the beach, but the disciples did not, of course, discern that it was Jesus. Then Jesus said to them: “Young children, YOU do not have anything to eat, do YOU?” They answered “No!” to him. He said to them: “Cast the net on the right side of the boat and YOU will find .” The…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Hi David, I am glad that you agree, since this is what God has said, and if what I have given you through the scriptures that I have quoted, are coming from God, should you not also agree to what is being said to you by God through those scriptures. You seem to want to hold on to doctrines that a demonination has taught you rather than to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Jesus, was made a life giving spirit. Agreed.
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote 1Jo 3:2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.Quote Of course, God is not a man and is invisible. No one has seen him nor will ever see him as the word “invisible” means exactly that.–94Hi 94. YOu quoted…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Kingdom of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Hi David,Since you haven't replied I assume you have found no scriptures that saythat after Christ returns he does not rule earth from earth.Dan713I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14And there was given him…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote But Jesus is a manHe was a man, he “became flesh” when he came to the earth. That was absolutely necessary to carry out his entire purpose for coming to the earth–to provide a ransom sacrifice for us.In luke 24 they were supposing he was a spirit because they saw him die, and there he was. I believe he was ressurrected a spirit, but took…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Maybe I should explain what I believe, so Nick can start picking on me, instead of the other way around. It will bring things back to a more normal state.During the Millennial Reign, Jehovah will “reside” among mankind in a temporary arrangement, he being represented by his royal Son, Jesus Christ. At the end of the Thousand Year Reign, how…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote God has DWELLED among men before.Exodus 25:8And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.Exodus 29:45And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.Exodus 29:46And they shall know that I am the LORD their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the LORD…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote What would you say is the tabernacle of God?94, I do not doubt that God will “be with” his people or 'dwell' with them.(Rev 21:2,3)But I think Nick is of the impression that God will be walking around and you'll see him there, sitting on a throne on earth. The earth is his footstool. The heavens are his throne. He is not a man, that he…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Hi david,So what is your point?God is in heaven. Yep.No Nick, that is not what it says. It doesn't say God is in heaven. It says:“Jehovah himself has firmly established his throne in the very heavens.”Heaven is his “established place of dwelling.”–THE BIBLEAnd somehow, you forgot to answer my question, which you are so famous for doing,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Hi david,Using a better translation2Chr 67Now it was in the heart of David my father to build an house for the name of the LORD God of Israel.8But the LORD said to David my father, Forasmuch as it was in thine heart to build an house for my name, thou didst well in that it was in thine heart:9Notwithstanding thou shalt not build the house;…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Earth in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
ISAIAH 57:20““But the wicked are like the sea that is being tossed, when it is unable to calm down, the waters of which keep tossing up seaweed and mire.”DANIEL 7:2“Daniel was speaking up and saying: “I happened to be beholding in my visions during the night, and, see there! the four winds of the heavens were stirring up the vast sea.”HABA…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
2 CHRONICLES 6:18““But will God truly dwell with mankind upon the earth? Look! Heaven, yes, the heaven of the heavens themselves, cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built?”
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
1 KINGS 8:27““But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, themselves cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!”
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
so, according to the BIBLE:“Jehovah himself has firmly established his throne in the very heavens.”Heaven is his “established place of dwelling.”–THE BIBLENick, I'm wondering what your answer to this biblical question would be:“‘The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What sort of house will YOU build for me? Jehovah says. Or wha…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
PSALM 103:19-21“Jehovah himself has firmly established his throne in the very heavens; And over everything his own kingship has held domination. Bless Jehovah, O YOU angels of his, mighty in power, carrying out his word, By listening to the voice of his word. Bless Jehovah, all YOU armies of his, You ministers of his, doing his will.”2 CHR…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
taken from “earth” thread:Quote Hi david,God and His Christ and those reborn into Christ will rule earth from earth.When God ruled the nation of israel, he did not have to be on the earth. The heavens of the heavens cannot contain him. and you think he will literally be on the earth, as a man, I guess.
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Nick:Quote Hi David,So we agree that Christ comes back to earth.sorry if I gave you this idea when agreeing with a comment. I do not believe Jesus becomes human again or will be walking around on the earth.Quote Hi Nick:My understanding is that Jesus is now ruling from heaven and has delegated to his disciples the authortiy to govern the church…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Excellent point:Matt. 28:18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 28:19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 28:20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Do men ever go to heaven? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Does he stay here for long, and why would he rule from heaven?Do you have any confirmation from scripture for this odd idea? Nick, if he has always lived in heaven and only came to the earth for a few years so that he could die a sacraficial death, then it is you who has the odd idea–being that he will live on the earth. He is at the right…[Read more]
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