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    Quote David ………..So your not certain if that what he said right, then that gives you the right to change it to meet your JW views, then.Wrong again Gene. Because of whom he was speaking to and because of the many many scriptures I quote which you ignore, it is certain what Jesus meant. When he “answered” the pharisees, he could not have…[Read more]

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    Quote David,When Jesus told the pharisees that the kingdom of God was in their midst and does not come with observation – what do you think that the kingdom was/is? – it could not be himself as he said that they could not observe it.Observe: “To be or become aware of, especially through careful and directed attention;…[Read more]

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    WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD?Anyone? I'm wondering what others think it is.

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    david replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote According to the Ancient Hebrew Research Center, Elohiym means Powers.While the origin of the word might suggest “power” when used of Jehovah (who is an intelligent being) it certainly means “powerful one.”  In the Bible, that word is never really used for abstract things.I assume this is what you were trying to show me:and he said, I {am}…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote Gene you are beginning to sound more and more like nick, always right, never wrong, super-human.Love Irene–IreneI dont mind when people sound right. It's when they don't use scriptures (ever) and when they're clearly shown to be wrong from scripture, they just ignore it, along with every question or scripture that doesn't suit…

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    david replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote the way i explained it is exactely the way the Hebrew Childern understood it. LORD GOD, (HE EXISTS WITH POWERS) period no Jehovah nothing,Fine, Yahweh if you prefer.But check the Hebrew Bible my friend. You won't find “Lord God” in there, but will find “Yahweh God” or “Jehovah God” about 80 times.Your Bible has taken God's name…[Read more]

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    Gene, as I asked before (along with my other un-answered questions):Can you prove that this isn't the case, by showing me some scriptures that back up your beliefs?I didn't think so.So, they are just your ideas.

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    Quote If Jesus said the kingdom comes without observation but is within you, why change that to fit you JW teachings. Because we're not certain that is what he said Gene. Our english versions are translations. Looking at the context (speaking to pharisees) and the context of the whole Bible (the hundreds of other scriptures about the kingdom) it…[Read more]

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    Quote To All…….there is no Greek word eternal ,Period. ion eion is Age only The Greeks did not have The word eternal in their language at all. The nearest thing to it is age unending. The translators substituted our word eternal and perpetuity of time is not what the word (aion) means it simple means , a period of time or age, that is the…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Taoism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote That may be the reason your not able to see things form a Spiritual standpoint David.Being that I'm the only one of the two of us that uses scripture in our comments to one another, I'm not sure you're in a position to assert the above.Quote I have noticed people who are very religious always want to label others why is that, while most…[Read more]

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    Quote hat why at the end when evil is again released on the earth immediately the whole world follows it, with the exception of Jesus and the SaintsYou really really really have to start quoting some scriptures Gene. Please.I'm not really certain what point or even what you were asking me at the end of that post. If we could start with the…[Read more]

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    Quote “the kingdom of God comes not with observation , it is within you”. David you mean you don't understand that. You tend to remove words from scriptures, Gene“on being asked BY THE PHARISEES when the kingdom of God was coming, he ANSWERED T H E M (ie: “the pharisees” Gene) and said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking o…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote I guess the one statement I disagree is, in some translations that say “and the word was God”, in John.1:1, that I feel some use to try and prove the “trinity” theory, is an incorrect translation.Hi Chosenone, I'm not exactly certain if you're saying you disagree with me or ones that use John 1:1 to prove the trinity. Understand that I do…[Read more]

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    Quote Were you there when the foundations of earth were laid.The sons of God were.I didn't actually see Nick quote the scripture, so here it is:JOB 38:4-7“Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell , if you do know understanding. Who set its measurements, in case you know, Or who stretched out upon it the measuring line? Into what h…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote Elohim means POWERSObviously, you're just wrong.Insert the word “powers” wherever you have the word “elohim” in the Bible and see how that goes.Quote So HE EXISTS WITH POWERS , created the universe.Ah, there we have it. Thanks for finally agreeing with me.”he exists with powers” is one good definition of “god.”Or, in other words “one who…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 8 months ago

    Jehovah is a communicative God, in that he reveals to his creatures in a variety of ways what his will and purposes are. At times he used holy men like Moses and Aaron to make known his purposes. (Ex 5:1) “Every word” that Moses commanded Israel was in effect the word of God to them. (De 12:32) God also spoke through the mouth of prophets such as…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago

    Quote David ………You answered you own question , the god (power) of this word, is whats working in the hearts of men causing them to do wrong and they received it from the world as John plainly said. It all came from the world. Not some boogie man but the Evil that came from the tree of the knowledge of good and Evil that was in the garden of…[Read more]

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    Quote The scripture does not say “enter the kingdom”. It says:Quote1Cr 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. True, further, regarding “inheriting” the kingdom, we notice that some are spoken of as “heirs.”JAMES 2:5“Listen, my beloved brothers. God c…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi……….Flesh and Blood can not enter into the kingdom of God , but the Kingdom of God can inter into flesh and blood, it is in all the Saints who are still alive and was also in Jesus Christ, who was flesh and blood.  The kingdom of GOD is in (you) , you are not in it.love and peace to all…………………geneflesh and blood cannot…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Taoism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 8 months ago

    I don't know Gene. Your whole: “the kingdom is within” sounds very eastern religionish. :)

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