Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2011,04:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,00:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,05:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,19:31)Are there elohim mentioned in scripture who are neither “God Almighty” nor “false gods”?MikeYesThanks Keith,But I already have your answer.  You are the one who has HONESTLY…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 06 2011,19:48)David said:Quote MULTIPLE times the Father and Son are listed together without the holy spirit being mentioned.  How is that a trinity?David,MULTIPLE times WJ and I have told you that the role of the Holy Spirit is a “behind the scenes” role. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit shall not speak of Himself…[Read more]

Quote Also, consider that a person can live without his fleshly body of dirt. Many do and many more will. The soul is the being or life of a person. But we know that soul does not have to be in a body of dirt in order to live, right? Therefore, even though it's not spelled out in Genesis, we KNOW that man does have a body, but does not…[Read more]

Quote But then Jesus clarified we need to worship Jehovah will our heart AND our mind. Now all of a sudden, it becomes clear that they are two different things. This is how I see this issue. Jesus clearly and without any minced words told us that man can only kill the body, but do nothing to the soul.Except, Jesus wouldn't contradict other…[Read more]

Quote So if man is ONLY dirt and breath (or spirit) from God, then the word “soul” would ALWAYS include the body.Except, I don't believe that soul simply means: “Person or animal” but I believe it means: “Person or animal, OR, the life of a person or animal.”Here's 2 sets of scriptures:LIFE AS AN INTELLIGENT PERSONGe 35:18; Ex 4:19; 21:23; 30:12;…[Read more]

Quote Rather, understanding Jesus to be saying that men are only able to kill the BODY of another man, but not his SOUL, is true to the scripture.But that's just it, Mike, … this isn't true to scripture.That's why that one and only one verse, the meaning has to be understood as “life prospects” or “future life” rather than simply as “life” as it…[Read more]

OK, you started this thread on Feb 23d. Do you remember roughly how many days it was before He said that, and you started this new thread. Was it right away? Or was it a matter of weeks? Any ideas?I'm not opposed to wading through many pages of material, but if there is way to narrow it down. (Even a guess, like between pages 125 and 170…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,How do you answer Matthew 10:28?Hi Mike. The truthful answer is, not greatly. Matthew 10:28 is literally the one scripture that doesn't fit in with our definition of “soul.” And so, we stretch the meaning of soul from “life/person” to “life prospects of the person.” By referring to the “soul” separately, saying body and sou…[Read more]

You don't know roughly the page, do you? 179 is a lot to search through.

Hi Pierre. I really have no idea what you are saying.

Gen. 2:7: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” This is NOT distinguishing Adam becoming a “living” soul as if he were a dead soul and then was given life becoming a living soul. I believe it is saying that when the spirit or bre…[Read more]

Hi Ed.I'm not really back, or maybe I am but just for the moment. I have way too many interests and my time is seeming shorter and shorter. What happens is, I have 3 minutes of free time, so I check this site. I then see something that I think is totally obviously wrong. And I really have no choice but to say something. And then, I'm dragged…[Read more]

I've read this thread. WJ makes no attempt to back out of that statement, or to even explain it. I'd really like to see the context.

“Isn't that what Francis, D, and Jack and I have been saying………….Everyone not just I are saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God.”Did WJ really say this? Is this the end of trinity discussion? Have I just stepped into another dimension?So, “I are saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he…[Read more]

Quote The point of this thread is to prove that Jesus mentions “a trinity”.Do you disagree with that David.You are confusing the ability to spot 3 things with the concept of the trinity. 3 of something listed together does not a trinity make, any more than 2 listed together, or 5 listed together.I'm not trying to insult you by repeatedly stating…[Read more]

Quote Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, “but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God”. John 5:35 God is my Father. There, according to the misguided Jews who were enemies of God, I am apparently making myself equal to God as well. But who are we to believe, the…[Read more]

I've been away. Is Nick gone? is that why the new mod is needed?

MATTHEW 28:19–WHAT DOESN’T IT SAY?This text does not say that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are coequal or coeternal or that all are God. All it proves is one’s ability to count to three. “Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” or “Peter, James and John” are mentioned together in groups of three many times, way more than the supposed trinity. The phrase: “A…[Read more]

Matthew 28:19–“scriptural proof a trinity exists”Or, perhaps proof that we can now count to 3?I did not find any proof of a trinity in the first post. I found proof of the ability to count to 3.Does 2 listed together repeatedly prove anything? 1 CORINTHIANS 1:3“May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and Lord Jesus C…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 23 2010,15:50)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2010,18:34)David, I have looked at that verse and I won't pretend that I have all of the answers because I don't.   I do know that Jesus wasn't recognized at first, and this is simply because they were blinded with grief. It say's in Luke 24 that “Their eyes were kept from recognizing…[Read more]