And so, back to my question: as king of this kingdom, do you think Jesus will act as our king?

Hi Terraricca, yes Jesus showed humility and taught humility. But, in the Bible he is clearly called a king. Do you not think he will act as our king? (It's that humility, along with other traits that would make him a great king, unlike human rulers)

Quote So it has been said by Christians that one who celebrates the upcoming holiday Halloween one also worships satan. I believe this is based on the fact this was a day where witches wiccans and other would prat ice witch craft and etc. I have been told by a friend who is into that the real halloween isn't on the 31 but a few days before. I have…[Read more]

Treraricca, might a “king” be involved with this kingdom?

((THIS DISCUSSION IS BETWEEN T8 AND MYSELF ONLY.))This is my main argument:QUESTION: Does it make sense that those who shut up the kingdom of the heavens for other men, would have that very same kingdom inside themselves? Is that logical? I do not see any way to make that logically fit together. 1. The Pharisees are said to shut up the kingdom…[Read more]

The kingdom, what is it?

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Quote (princess @ Sep. 15 2011,23:10)Quote (david @ Sep. 15 2011,17:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,13:02)Ed, give me an example of ANY "YES or NO" question that cannot be answered with a "YES or NO".Ask me one right now.I was just reading a book.  I like this question you ask.I have a question (a yes or no question) that you must answer…[Read more]

GOD’S KINGDOM–IS IT IN THE HEARTS OF THE PHARISEES? (Luke 17:20,21)((THIS DISCUSSION IS BETWEEN T8 AND MYSELF ONLY. I WILL GLADLY HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH ANYONE THAT REQUESTS IT, BUT PLEASE REQUEST IT THROUGH A PM OR ELSEWHERE))((Also, T8, the point of this discussion is to find weaknesses in thinking and to determine which und…[Read more]

“David…………You are using your JW Bible translation to support you false teachings of the Kingdom of God…”Gene, this is false and you know it's false because you know that the vast majority of Bibles translate it that way, and the few that don't, include the alternate translation in their footnotes. Gene, if the NWT was the only Bible in…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2011,16:37)wellsaid DavidThanks.

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 18 2011,01:34)David!  Even so I too like to talk to your people, but I am a little bit confused…. First of all I alwasy thought that the authorities are the Kings for us now, and that we are under them and should obey by their laws…. so you disagree and that we shouldn't?  IreneHi Pastry.No, I don't agree or believe that w…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 16 2011,21:07)Quote (david @ Sep. 16 2011,07:42)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 15 2011,19:21)Hi David.Is it true JWs do not believe in healing?We don't believe in miraculous healings today.  We believe those things were “done away with.”  I can discuss this more, but have only a few minutes now.David I love talking to JWs their my f…[Read more]

As I said:Quote “I believe there are Christians outside of your organization as well as inside of your organization. (Mark 9:38-40)”–edSince you aren't willing to say it, I will say it for you. (disagree with me if I'm wrong):You believe that JW's as a whole are not following Christ, and hence, are not Christian. You hold out that some JW's are…[Read more]

Ed, clearly it is not. Do I have to explain to you how your statement is ambigous? It would take you 4 seconds to clear it up.“I believe there are Christians outside of your organization as well as inside of your organization. (Mark 9:38-40)”–edSince you aren't willing to say it, I will say it for you. (disagree with me if I'm wrong):You…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 09 2011,10:48)Quote “Do you believe that JW's are Christians (followers of Christ)?”…..Are JW's Christians.  (If you want to abandon that other discussion, and if you answer this question with a yes or no answer, I will answer your question.) “I believe there are Christians outside of your organization as well as inside of…[Read more]

Quote “Do you believe that JW's are Christians (followers of Christ)?”…..Are JW's Christians. (If you want to abandon that other discussion, and if you answer this question with a yes or no answer, I will answer your question.) “I believe there are Christians outside of your organization as well as inside of your organization. (Mark…[Read more]

Ed, how can my question which you don't want to answer “moot” when it is at the heart of what we were discussing. Your question on the other hand is unrelated. (unless you want to abandon this line of discussion and start another topic.)It is as unrelated as this question which you did not answer:”Do you believe that JW's are Christians…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,02:49)Quote (david @ Sep. 17 2011,13:28)“ED, IF THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE RULERS OF THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS ARE TO COME TO NOTHING, WHY BE ONE OF THEM?….Ed, would you want to be one of those rulers?”Your answer: “No.”Ed, do you think it's wrong for a Christian to take that same stand?Hi David,Are you going to give me…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2011,05:53)ED j……….Good one brother, the Kingdom of GOD is where he rules and He rules his true Childern from the inside OUT not from the outside IN> The JW'S focuses is on the outside a Physical Kingdom becasue there leaders know it will tantalize their physically minded followers and gives them complete…[Read more]