Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years ago
Hi Proclaimer,
I want to apologize for being harsh on you.
I’m sorry.
At the moment I’m not sure what’s biblical –
Trinitarianism, Binitarianism or Unitarianism?
I cannot tell. Sorry for my back and forth.
I have to pray and study until I’m sure.
That’s why I will take a long break and only comment again
when I’m 100% sure.So long!
God…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
If Jesus is God, then Jesus has a Son. Because God has a Son.
That’s your typical word game.
Let’s apply your logic.
God calls His Son “O God” in Hebrews 1:8.
So according to your logic God calls His Son “O Myself” in Hebrews 1:8.Do you see how absurd that is?
Your game doesn’t work, Proclaimer.Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years ago
Oh, don’t play dumb!
You are always saying that Jesus is not God, he is the Son of God.
But Trinitarians do believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God.
You can read it again.
Here is a quote from the Nicene Creed as adopted in 325:
“And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father the only-begotten; that i…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years ago
Hi Proclaimer,
It’s time to stop the false accusations against Trinitarians.
Trinitarians do believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God.
Here is a quote from the Nicene Creed as adopted in 325:
“And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi Mike,
You asked:
Danny, are those who believe Jesus is the Christ literal sons of God because they are begotten of God?
Are those who are begotten of God not creations of God because they are begotten of God?Jesus Christ was no created, but begotten.
He is in fact, the only begotten Son of God. (John 1:14, John 1:18; John 3:16,…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
There are many sons of God, I agree, but
Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Son of God (John 3:16; 1 John 4:9)Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hey Guys,
I don’t remember the questions you sent to me before
the break I had.
If you have any remaining questions then please ask me again.
Thank you and God bless!Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Berean,
You:
Angels who have never sinned are created beings and they are LITTERAL SONS .
You do not think ?Me:
Well I think they are not literal sons in the
sense that they are not begotten.Blessings.
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi LU,
You said:
I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.
Yes. I believe that too.
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
You said that Jesus was created.
You are wrong.
Jesus was not created but begotten.
He is in fact the only begotten Son of the Father, and as such,
He has the same essential nature as His Father.
This means that Jesus is also deity—God.Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi LU,
You asked:
Danny and Berean,
The three of us are agreeing on both the Father and Son being deity and identified as YHVH, correct?I agree.
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
I’m glad you agree, Berean.
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Proclaimer,
Jesus and His Father are both deity not just divine.
I believe this is what John 1:1 teaches.
“what God was, the Word was”The terms “divinity” and “deity” can be confusing. In most cases the terms have identical meanings.
However, some have used “divine” to refer to an angel, since it came from God.
However, an angel would…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi LU,
Thanks.
You asked:That which is begotten of the eternal One is part of the family of YHVH and is every bit a YHVH as the eternal One that begat Him.
Would you agree to that?Yes, I agree. That’s the natural conclusion.
You also said:
That which was begotten of Elvis Presley is part of the Presley family and is every bit a…
Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Proclaimer,
Jesus is God by nature.
I agree with that.
But what’s then the conclusion.
Listen to what Irenaeus also said:
“Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father.”
(Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1.10.1.)
Is Jesus Christ your God?Now to your question.
I believe 7 is right.
7.…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
@t8 @genebalthrop @Lightenup @berean
@gadam123 @edj @mikeboll64Hey guys! and everyone else I didn’t mention,
Irenaeus wrote around AD 185 and mentions John 1:1 five times.
In one reference he comments, “‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”
Irenaeus understood Jesus as more than “a god” or a divine bein…[Read more]Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi Adam,
Just remember, Yahweh the Most High God loves you.
He gave His Son Jesus Christ for your salvation.Blessings,
Danny
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Johnyy replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi Adam,
I got to be honest with you.
First I didn’t want to wish you a blessing because you
do reject our Lord Jesus as the Messiah.
But then I realized that we should be good to all people.
I’m sorry that I lied to you and that I was harsh on you.
We shouldn’t be that way.
But you got to understand that your constantly rejecting
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