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    who is the beginning of the creation of God:

    Lightenup,

    It just occurred to me that this topic is concentrating on the word “BEGINNING” and not on the actual DEFINITION/S which could result from the sentence,ITSELF!

    example!

    the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth!

    OUR CONCENTRATION GOES DIRECTLY ON THE TITLE OF

    HEAVEN AND…[Read more]

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    The ten commands are but a few dots in that picture. There is not one word written in the ten commandments about giving to the needy and yet that is something that Christians and Jews are expected to do.

    Kerwin

    We, as Christians have Jesus’ commandments, and Jesus made it clear:

    Matthew 25:41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be…[Read more]

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    The sum of God’s commandments is to love your fellow as God loves you.

    Kerwin,

    That is Jesus’statement when he said:

    John13:34 A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

    THE FACT THAT HE SAID A NEW COMMANDMENT…!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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    The flesh contributes nothing.

    Nick,

    READ AND BE AWARE WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID:

     

    IF YOU  REFERRED TO JESUS’ FLESH BODY

    THE WORD MADE FLESH

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/

    Dictionary

    contribute


    : to give (something, such as money, goods, or time) to help a person, group, cause, or organization

    : to help to cause something to happen

    :…[Read more]

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    at least power over those of the dark side.

     

    Edj,

    YOU YOURSELF SPECIFIED THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST ANGELS BUT

    OF THE DARK SIDE!

    BUT “ANGELS” ON ITS OWN THERE ARE ONLY ONE KIND WITHIN OUR UNDERSTANDING!

    HOLY HEAVENLY CREATURES!

    ALSO SCRIPTURE REFERS TO THE DEMONS AS ANGELS ONLY WHEN IT  ATTACHED THEM TO SATAN! AS:

    HIS ANGELS:

    THEREFORE…[Read more]

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    Even this revelation of things that were supposedly to soon come to pass came from God,to Jesus,to an angel,to John.So Jesus didn’t know this revelation until God gave it to him.

    AndrewAD,

    By all means!

    BUT:

    On the last day of the Lord Jesus Christ,

    JESUS SHALL GIVE HIS KINGDOM TO THE FATHER:

    THEREFORE THE FATHER HASN’T YET GOT WHAT J…[Read more]

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    The souls of the dead are destroyed.

    Kerwin,

    SOULS ARE ETERNAL!

    THEY ARE GOD’S WORD, JESUS’ SUBSTANCE! ALL BY HIM, ALL IN HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM, OK?

    IT IS CLEAR

    ALL

    AND ALL GOD’S ATTRIBUTES ARE ETERNAL!

    THIS INCLUDES

    FIRE!

    THE FACT THAT

    GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE

    BOTH PHYSICAL FIRE, AND SPIRITUAL FIRE OF

    LOVE!

    The fact that it is c…[Read more]

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    the doctrine of eternal suffering.

     

    AndrewAD,

    ETERNAL SUFFERING,

    It is not to be meant that a soul would be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED IN HELL,since hell would eventually be for sure eradicated!

    The word ETERNAL is a reference to GOD!

    SO IT SHOULD BE DEFINED:

    GOD’S SUFFERING!

    WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT GOD…[Read more]

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    the doctrine of eternal suffering.

     

    AndrewAD,

    ETERNAL SUFFERING,

    It is not to be meant that a soul would be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED IN HELL,since hell would eventually be for sure eradicated!

    The word ETERNAL is a reference to GOD!

    SO IT SHOULD BE DEFINED:

    GOD’S SUFFERING!

    WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT GOD…[Read more]

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    the doctrine of eternal suffering.

     

    AndrewAD,

    ETERNAL SUFFERING,

    It is not to be meant that a soul would be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED IN HELL,since hell would eventually be for sure eradicated!

    The word ETERNAL is a reference to GOD!

    SO IT SHOULD BE DEFINED:

    GOD’S SUFFERING!

    WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT GOD…[Read more]

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    the doctrine of eternal suffering.

     

    AndrewAD

    ETERNAL SUFFERING,

    It is not to be meant that a soul would be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED IN HELL,since hell would eventually be for sure eradicated!

    The word ETERNAL is a reference to GOD!

    SO IT SHOULD BE DEFINED:

    GOD’S SUFFERING!

    WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT GOD…[Read more]

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    the doctrine of eternal suffering.

    @DavidL

    ETERNAL SUFFERING,

    It is not to be meant that a soul would be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED IN HELL,since hell would eventually be for sure eradicated!

    The word ETERNAL is a reference to GOD!

    SO IT SHOULD BE DEFINED:

    GOD’S SUFFERING!

    WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS!

    THE FACT THAT GOD HIMSELF…[Read more]

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    Ultimately the topic is about what happens to the Wicked when they are cast into Hell.

    t8,

    18He shall be punished for all that he did, and yet shall not be consumed: according to the multitude of his devices so also shall he suffer.

    THEREFORE AS SOON AS HE HAS WENT ALL THROUGH THE ABOVE PROCESS, HE WILL DEFINITELY ENTER GOD’S…[Read more]

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    prove to us that man’s soul is eternal thus making the above scriptures wrong.

    t8,and all,

    SCRIPTURALLY!

    GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE

     

    Job 20:18 He shall be PUNISHED for all that he did, and yet shall not be CONSUMED: according to the multitude of his devices so also shall he SUFFER.

    From the above it is clear enough, that Lucifer/Satan HIMSELF[Read more]

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    And Scripture also seems to suggest that we too have power over the Angels,

    Edj, and ALL

    In actual fact it is not really THAT WE HAVE POWER OVER THE ANGELS
    Scriptures say that WE WOULD JUDGE ANGELS

    1Corinthians 6:3 Know you not that we shall judge angels ? ……

    But in the truth, the above is a reference that the angels, since:

    They are onl…[Read more]

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    And Scripture also seems to suggest that we too have power over the Angels,

    Edj,

    In actual fact it is not really THAT WE HAVE POWER OVER THE ANGELS
    Scriptures say that WE WOULD JUDGE ANGELS

    1Corinthians 6:3 Know you not that we shall judge angels ? ……

    But in the truth, the above is a reference that the angels, since:

    They are only SONS OF…[Read more]

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    22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;

    23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. 24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, 26 b…

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    The simple truth is that the one true God made all things through and for his son.

    t8,

    BY ALL MEANS!

    BUT THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT HIS SON DID ALSO ALL THINGS THROUGH AND FOR HIS FATHER!

    REGARDING THE FLESH

    FOR THE SIMPLE TRUTH THAT THE FATHER WAS HANDICAPPED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT HIS SON DID!

    AS A SPIRIT!

    THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW HIS SON…[Read more]

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    This reasoning is flawed on so many levels.

    But seek His kingdom, and these things will be added to you. “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom

    So does that make us God by your reasoning? Yes it does if we use your reasoning. But is you reasoning correct? Absolutely not.

    t8,

    FIRST OF ALL: R…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…….GOD THE FATHER IS IN Jesus Christ to establish (his) (God’s kingdom) on this earth, it is not JESUS’ KINGDOM,

    Gene,

    FIRST AND FOREMOST DO NOT TAKE ANY OF MY WORDS IN ANY WAY

    ANTAGONIST

    I AM SIMPLY JESUS CHRIST FANATIC MORE THEN GOD FANATIC,

    SINCE THERE’S NO TRUE GOD WITHOUT CHRIST

    Read:

    Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from…[Read more]

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