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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Carmel…..AGAIN you change text to meet your false trinitarian  teachings, it says “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which “GOD GAVE UNTO HIM”,  to show unto his servants”…… IT dosen’t take a genius to clearly understand what that says, only a deluded mind couldn’t “clearly” understand that.

    You call me and Jodi carnel,  and were…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer, Jesus was the messenger, that God sent to show John his servant who recorded it and took it to the Churches.   There was no angelic being involved ,

    The word Angel,  means “messenger” there,   and Jesus is and was God’s  “messenger”,  to mankind.

    Hi Gene,

    You are not in the position to speak and preach

    J[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU:JESUS WAS A MAN, who was “anointed” with the Holy Spirit of God, that is why he is call the CHRIST,  THE “ANOINTED” ONE.

    Answer Gene:

    THERE ARE MANY ANOINTED 
    BUT ONLY JESUS
    THE SON
    OF MAN IS
    CHRIST
    WHY?
    John4:25The woman saith to him:

    I know that the Messias cometh (who is called Christ);
    therefore, when HE IS COME,( from…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU:No one here has produced a single scripture that shows Jesus ever saying he prexisted his birth on this earth. IF you have it produce it, where Jesus himself said he did preexist his birth.

    Gene,

    WHAT DOES THIS VERSE SAY IN PURE PLAIN CLEAR SIMPLE ENGLISH?
    John6:62 If then you shall see the Son of man
    ascend up where he was…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum carmel 4 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Jodi,

    YOU:What was God’s purpose from the beginning but to make man into His own image, and

    Jesus is that man who shed his blood and was raised having received the promised Holy Spirit, was begotten by God, and received the mercies promised unto his father David.

    ME: Scripture

    Geneis 1:2626And he said: Let us make man to our image and l…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,
    BLA, BLA, and BLA!!!
    YOU DIDN’T PRODUCE ONE WORD OR VERSE AND CONTRADICT ME Gene, 
    Consequently 
    MINE STANDS
    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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    No I don’t, nor have I done that.  Jesus is the Word (spokesman) OF God, just as Kal Hatze was the Word (spokesman) OF the King of Abyssinia.

    Me: Yes Mike, you are putting God in the same basket with the king of Abyssinia.
    Abyssinia is a mortal human being his word is nothing.
    God is the creator and  his word is
    SPIRIT and LIFE!!!
    JESUS. THE SON…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Carmel……what does “firstborn” mean,  let me explain that to you,

    obvisely you don’t understand the very word “firstborn”   ,

    WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE “BORN”  “FIRST”,

    ME: Gene, I’ m afraid you are back to the old story! You are stuck, I REPEAT:

    YOU ARE STUCK TO YOUR CARNAL MINDED REASONING/INTELLIGENCE[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    YOU: apply other scriptures to Hebrews 1,

    Psalms 89:27 Also I will MAKE him my firstborn,
    higher than the kings of the earth.
    Jodi, AREN’T YOU IN THE POSITION TO EXPLAIN HOW AND WHEN GOD MADE

    JESUS HIS FIRSTBORN?
    higher than the kings of the earth.
    ARE YOU PREOCCUPIED?

    Jodi,  Psalm 89 contains 52 verses!

    Out of the 52 verses you p…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU:GOD the Father plainly said he created everything “alone” and by “himself”,

    as we have shown you over and over from scripture. But you had rather us believe in a contradiction of scriptures, or use carnel reasoning to cercumvent the truth.

    Gene:

    DAVID KILLED GOLIATH ALL ALONE,

    ALL BY HIMSELF ALSO!

    AS MUCH AS GOD CREATED ALL BY…[Read more]

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    HI Gene,

    YOU: you people preach and believe Jesus is your Saviour,

    and how to Worship him,

       I preach and believe GOD THE FATHER IS MY SAVIOUR

    and the Saviour of all mankind and THE “MAN”, Jesus also.

     

    Gene you simply LIVE not just TALK 
    LIES
    Read:

    Philippians 3:7 But the things that were gain to me,
    the same I have counted loss f…[Read more]

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    HI Gene,

    YOU: you people preach and believe Jesus is your Saviour,

    and how to Worship him,

       I preach and believe GOD THE FATHER IS MY SAVIOUR

    and the Saviour of all mankind and THE “MAN”, Jesus also.

     

    Gene you simply LIVE not just TALK 
    <h1>LIES</h1>
    Read:

    Philippians 3:7 But the things that were gain to me,
    <h2> the same I have c…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Carmel……here you go……

    “that they might know you the “ONLY” true God,” …….
    HERE WE GO:
    Gene, YOU ARE FOCUSING ONLY ON THE PHRASE:
    the “ONLY” true God,” …….
    In the same time you are IGNORING COMPLETELY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART WHICH IS

    THE BEGINNING OF THE SENTENCE. READ:
    John17:3 Now this is eternal life:
    JESUS I…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU CARMEL…..Again  you completely neglected the scriptures I quoted from scriptures to you. The same applies to Berean and Proclaimer,  you all  force our scripture to say what in fact they do not say, and even add your own words and thoughts  to our texts to make your false “assumptions” as the Pharisees  did at the time of Jesus.

    Bu…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Carmel……No Mike is right, Jesus is called thec word of God because he speaks to us thec words of God,  not “his” words,  or don’t  you believe what Jesus said ,  

    the word I am telling you are “NOT” my word , but the words of him who sent me.  

    Jesus plainly tell you THE WORDS HE WAS TELLING THEM WAS “NOT” FROM HIMSELF.

    How mu…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU: One of Jesus’ many names is “the Word of God”.

      He is not called that because he is a literal word(s) God spoke. 

    He is called that because he is God’s preeminent spokesman. 

    Just like the spokesman for the King of Abyssinia was named “the Word of the King” (Kal Hatze).  That human being wasn’t literally a word that the Kin…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU:SCRIPTURE TELL US THAT SHOOT OR BRANCH WAS FROM THE stump of  JESSE, WHICH BOTH KING DAVID and then  JESUS CAME FROM.

    ME: EXPLAIN TO ME Gene,
    WHAT IS A STUMP PLEASE?
    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

     

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    Hi Gene,

    ME: Let’s refresh our memory Gene and go back to my/your WORDS:

    YOU: So far,  he is the “firstborn” of “MANY “, BRETHERN”.

    ME: Gene IN WHAT WAY, AND WHEN 

    JESUS BECAME THE FIRSTBORN OF 

    MANY BRETHREN?

    Now let’s refer to scripture Gene,

    Romans 8:29 For whom he (GOD THE FATHER) foreknew, he also

    predestinated to be made conforma…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Berean…..Jesus is the “only”, “begotten son”,  (from mankind), of God,

    Gene, YOU ARE CONTRADICTING EVEN YOURSELF IN YOUR MADNESS REGARDING JESUS’HUMAN NATURE!

    HOW ON EARTH JESUS IS

    THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD AND ALSO

    FROM MANKIND!

    WHEN SCRIPTURES MADE IT CLEAR THAT

    JESUS WAS ONLY 

    IN ALL THINGS LIKE HUMANS,[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: You people believe Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth,  but Jesus believed he was a product of mankind saying over 80 times,

    he was a Son (product of) Man,

    ME; Gene, THE ABOVE IS ONLY YOUR CARNAL UNDERSTANDING and
    lies
    JESUS NEVER USED THE TERM AND SAID

    A SON OF MAN BUT
    THE SON OF MAN, UNIQUE, ONE OF A KIND.
    Now, title…[Read more]

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