Hi Mike,

YOU:Read it again.  John said Jesus gave us the right to BECOME spiritual children of God. 

YES Mike, definitely
John 1:12-13 But to all who did receive Him,
to those who believed in His name,

Me ATTENTION Mike please, I repeat:
Immediately WHILE STILL ON EARTH,
to all who did receive Him,

to those who believe in His name,

WHILE T…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU:Me: I have already answered the first part of this question. Yes Israel was called as God’s son in Hebrew Bible in Ex 4:22 and also David’s son Solomon or the future messiah will be God’s son “I will be his father and he will be my son” (2 Sam 7:14; 1 Chron 17:13).

ME: God is a spirit and generally speaking all His tasks are in ev…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU: Hi Carmel,

Do you mean that God as Father is not mentioned in the Hebrew Bible?

Do you mean that God the Father never mentioned in a way or another His Son in the Hebrew Bible?

Do you mean that in a way or another The Holy Spirit is never mentioned in the Hebrew Bible?

YOU: I am sorry I never meant that God is not father in the…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU:No, we are not born as “spiritual sons of God”.

John 1:12-13

But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man,
but born of God.
ME: Mike God is a SPIRIT BEING!

If we are born of A SPIRIT  BEING
WE ARE BORN…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU: I don’t find any logic here on your division of Man Vs division of God. There is no Father, Son and Holy Spirit available in the Hebrew Bible unless you force the scriptures (OT)

ME: Do you mean that God as Father is not mentioned in the Hebrew Bible?

Do you mean that God the Father never mentioned in a way or another His Son i…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU: Among the major problems with Matthew’s attribution of this verse to Jesus is that in context the entire chapter in Hoshea is clearly speaking about the Jewish people as “My son.” This is a very common metaphor in Tanach, where the collective body of the Jewish people is called “God’s son,” or “firstborn.”

Me: You elaborated CONV…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU: 52:13 “Behold, My servant will prosper.” Israel in the singular is called God’s servant throughout Isaiah, both explicitly (Isa. 41:8-9; 44:1-2; 45:4; 48:20; 49:3) and implicitly (Isa. 42:19-20; 43:10) – the Messiah is not

Exodus 4:22And thou shalt say to him: Thus saith the Lord: Israel is my son, my firstborn. 23I have said to…[Read more]

HI Gadam,

YOU: Hi Carmel, you are asking answer from me. Yes I have already quoted in my posts that
God alone is the sole creator of the universe there was no one else with him.
Me: THE TRUTH IS, THAT NO ONE KNOWS
WHAT GOD IS!
EXCEPT IN JESUS!

Genesis 1:26 And he said: Let US make man to
OUR image and likeness: 
Me: Gadam, ARE YOU, as a human…[Read more]

HI Gadam,

1King 1:32 King David also said: Call me Sadoc the priest, and Nathan the prophet, and Banaias the son of Joiada. And when they were come in before the king, 33He said to them: Take with you the servants of your lord, and set my son Solomon upon my mule: and bring him to Gihon. 34And let Sadoc the priest, and Nathan the prophet anoint…[Read more]

HiGene,

Carmel……You are without a doubt the most corrupter of scriptures then anyone here or for that matter was ever here. 

THE ONLY THING YOU ARE GOOD FOR Gene, IS
BLA, BLA, and BLA!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
TILL THEN
MIND STANDS!
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy to dogs;
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest perhaps they trample them…[Read more]

HiGene,,

When in your mind you have turned Jesus away from you own identity with him

YOUR FIRST LIE:

ME: Gene, JESUS ON HIS REURRECTION  ESTABLIHED THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE

ALL AUTHENTIC BROTHERS IN HIM!!!

Scripture:

John20:17Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to my Father.
But go to my brethren,…..
Gene the…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

YOU: Proclaimer, the Gospel is not about some anointed spirit son coming to earth emptying himself to die for our sins and

then go back to his former glory.

ME: READ THE GOSPEL Jodi:

John6:62 But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them:
Doth this scandalize you?
 62If then you shall see the…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Are you saying God Can do nothing without Jesus? I thought it was Jesus who said he could do ‘”NOTHING ” of himself.

ME: PRECISELY Gene! As Jesus as a SPIRIT/MEDIATOR, simply meant that He is between God and every creature! PRECISELY IN THEIR HEART!
SIMPLY A SERVANT
SERVING BOTH GOD AND  CREATURES AS

“THE WORD” OF GOD, THE ON…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU:

Proclaimer……IF God “made” “ALL THINGS ” , what did Jesus Make?
Please tell me what part did Jesus play?
Seeing God made it all?
Proverbs 8:30 I was with him forming all things:
and was delighted every day,
playing before him at all times;
 

Pease and love in Jesus Christ

Hi Gene,

YOU: He is not now or ever was God the Fathers own word himself .

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts.

10And as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,…[Read more]

Hi Gadman,

YOU: The belief that Jesus fulfilled scripture was crucial to the earliest groups of Jesus followers—either Jews or non-Jews who knew that they had joined a Jewish movement—because it was a means to assure themselves of their religious legitimacy.

It enabled them to relate what was new (Jesus) to what was old (the scriptures of Isr…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: That’s why Jesus is a joint heir along with us of God’s graces.

YOU: So many points in one little passage. 

SO MANY POINTS  WHICH YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND WITH EVERY RESPECT! IMO.

YOU: First of all, our hope is to become spiritual children of God.
NOT QUITE RIGHT:
WE ARE ALREADY SPIRITUAL CHILDREN OF GOD! IN FACT, THAT PASSA…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: Carmel:  I am serving my son right at this MOMENT IN TIME DOING THE ENTIRE FURNITURE OF HIS HOUSE FOR HIM

You are graciously giving of yourself to help your son. 
You are your son’s BENEFACTOR, not his SERVANT.
ME, YES without a doubt!

BUT GOD GAVE US TWO EYES NOT JUST ONE AND!

AND FROM YOUR SIDE, THAT ‘S ONLY FROM ONE PERS…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: That’s why Jesus is a joint heir along with us of God’s graces.
John15:I AM the true vine, and
my Father is the husbandman.
Mike is the Father serving Jesus in the above?
 2Every branch in me, that beareth not fruit,
he will take away:
Is the Father serving Jesus in the above?
and every one that beareth fruit, he will purge it, that…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: That’s why Jesus is a joint heir along with us of God’s graces.

Romans 8: 17And if sons,
heirs also;
heirs indeed of God, and
joint-heirs WITH CHRIST
yet so, if we suffer WITH HIM,

that we may be also glorified WITH HIM.

OK Mike,  PROPERLY PREACHED:  WE AS CHRISTIANS,

SPIRITUALLY AS SOULS,  ARE

HEIRS INDEED OF GOD, BY THE…[Read more]