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Recommended movie to watch: My name is Khan. Had me crying a lot.

[Camillia]

WWW=666 in ancient Hebrew and other languages (source Wikipedia and Hebrew for Christians)
The first Apple computer sold for $666.66 (source Wikipedia. Bitten Apple logo and pun on bite/byte.
God said not to make a graven image of anything in the heaven above, earth below or sea (full-stop) and not to worship or SERVE that image.

More: Google Chromes new Logo shows three sixes.

Of course despite the evidence which one of us would want to admit there is a possibility when true admittance would mean total abstinence from the Net?

 

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This video is worth watching (if you can stay awake through it!)

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t8 wrote:

As for the Web, is it worship or is it just going about daily activities.

Take my situation. I am a Web designer by trade, so I spend my working life building websites. I do my reading on the Web as opposed to books, and I watch much video on the Web as opposed to adhering to the timetables of TV. I sometimes play games on the Web with my kids, which is the same as playing games in real life with them, but useful on a rainy day, (but without the exercise). I keep in touch with friends further afield through Facebook instead of writing letters.  Further, I get most of my news from the Web rather than read a newspaper because it is up to the minute and requires no trees to be cut down.

I could do all these things the old fashion way, but is doing that through the Web really any different?

I think there is a difference.

One is reality. The other is an image of reality.

Exodus 20:3 says: “You shall have no other gods before Me. “You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. “You shall not worship them or serve them.”

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Hi t8 thanks.

I’ll start up a new topic.

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Hi t8. How come posts have trouble displaying sometimes?

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Hi Ed.

Jesus promised the Father would send the Holy Spirit (John 14:16)

The second Adam became a life giving spirit (1st Cor 15:45).

Jesus said I will come to you (John 14:18)

The Lord is the Spirit (2nd Corinthians 3:17) ?

 

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hi camellia

according to scriptures he came back on the clouds in 70 ad ;for he fulfilled the prophecy he told his apostles ,about the temple ,

and that all will see him (in the understanding of the fulfillment of that prophecy even those that pierced him (they were still alive at that time )

but that was the end of that age ,now we are in the next age the one that follows the apostles call,
Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,

Rev 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.
Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.”

Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.

JN 12:32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

Jn 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Jn 13:35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another

true love does not lie nor deceive or practice falsehood ,

 

Thanks Terraricca.  I do wonder that sometimes.

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I could imagine people spending their time going to digital nightclubs, playing violent games, and engaging in all kinds of stuff that would probably bring much hurt in the real world, but in the virtual world you have infinite lives. Sounds very science fiction, but obviously in time it could easily be fact.

Hmm, it is already happening.

‘And the dragon stood on the sand of the sea.’ A friend mentioned the computer chip comes from sand.

TV: 2 Aerials, given sound: seemed innocent yet it spoke like a dragon.

(following has original Greek “it” rather than “he” translation (makes a difference)
http://biblehub.com/text/revelation/13-11.htm
‘Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke as a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. It performs great signs, so that it even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. And it deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given it to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to it to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak…’

Call me silly but TV is the first thought I had on first reading (many years ago).

Add onto that all the above facts (WWW=666, first comp sold $666, not to make an image, apple logo bite/byte 666 image of chrome… and the image being of a kingdom)..

Did I forget to mention the Hebrew word for W (6) means Hook, Spear or Tent Peg.

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t8,

the world that is setting up its adherents to accept the coming Antichrist as not only being of God, but that the false prophet to come is Jesus Christ.

That is true amongst Christianity also.

they worship and honour a number of things outside of Allah, including the Black Stone.

Dito.

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EdJ

This one:
“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them
that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

Thanks.

T, do you believe Jesus has returned?

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Bd,

26 While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

Matthew 26.

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Hi Ed! Glad the dust has settled for you and you have returned! (missed you).

“The Bible” says: he shall appear the second time to them that look for him,
it doesn’t say anything about him appearing to those who are not looking for him.

What verses would you use for that?

I personally do not believe one should be kicked off a forum because of his beliefs.
After all, if communication is ceased – how then can one be swayed to understand what “The Truth” really is?

I agree.

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t8.

The second video (Who is the antichrist? The answer may surprise you)… What is the man trying to prove? Actually, what is anyone trying to prove? Clearly, Muslims are deceived into believing a false Jesus and false God, but what do these facts PROVE? I mean what does it gain a Christian to know these things if all they are doing is casting stones and alerting others when only 1% of world Christians are in those countries witnessing to them? Do you understand what I mean. Also, is what the man says COMPLETELY true? Where is the verification of his sources?

[Camillia]

Hello T,

just think the apple of eden being the world and all it contents ;remember Jesus saying that his disciples are not of this world ,but also those that accept Christ are no longer in the world ,remember the young rich lad when Jesus told him to get rid of all his wealth, but could not for his heart as been seduced by it ,

Yes, exactly.

the 666 is the name of the beast or only one of the beast that is also part of the world of satan all are but diversion inside the world ,from which all true believers should flee away from ,use it but do not love it or cherish it only love God and his son,

Good advice (:

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I would have to agree that Heaven must be up but of the spiritual realm where there is no actual location or distance, if you know what I mean.

Jesus said “I go and prepare a place for you”, yes. Jesus also said “I go to the Father”, yes. He was taken up to Heaven – that we agree on. But are Jesus and the Father God limited to just one place? Is it not by the Spirit (Holy Spirit) they are connected to Earth.

Jesus is soon to return, but to do what? Peter says to destroy the wicked with fire, then take the remaining to where He is (Heaven). Then is a new Heaven and a new Earth.

Nevertheless, if Jesus is in Heaven and is to come, did Jesus not say He would manifest Himself to those who keep His word and commandments?

“Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

“In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. “He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him.”(John 14:20)

Manifest:
emphanizó:
Strongs Greek: 1718
Appear before (in person), make visible,
http://biblehub.com/greek/1718.htm

The same word is found in Matt 27:53.
“The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared (emphanizó) to many.”

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Hi Grasshopper,

That is an interesting theory – but, for the most part, I cannot jump on board with that idea.

It is just that – a theory.
I find the evidence compelling. Example, not only does WWW read in ancient Hebrew numerically as 666, but even Chrome’s new logo looks like a 666. The first Apple computer sold for exactly $666.66 (source Wikipedia), and then there’s the Apple logo with a bitten Apple and pun on bite/byte. more. God explicitly said not to make a graven image, fullstop, and Tv and Internet is made of images. We could say “Oh, but it’s only… images,” but it was ‘only a taste of fruit’ with Adam and Eve.

The internet (WWW) is also a tool used for good. If not for the internet, we (the members of this forum) would probably have NEVER met. I truly believe that God has allowed this technology, so as to be used as a tool for those who hope to seek out righteousness; thusly bringing people to God and Christ – and also a means to help enable The Church to unite as one.

People in remote places now can be witnessed to via the internet. Where else and HOW else would SO MANY people have the ability to compare every single bible translation ever made? And where else and how else would so many be able to keep track of the world’s events as they are unfolding in real time? Scripture tells us to be watchful and awake and wise. One has to acknowledge that the use of the internet allows for all of the above to be accomplished on a grand scale.

True believers of Christ can use the information available through this technology to better equip/guard themselves/ourselves against deceptions waged against us…waged against The Body. This would be incredibly hard to do otherwise.

I dare say that the “WWW” has been a tool used by God to bring many to the Truth…many to The Church. I can personally testify that God’s Holy Spirit has led me to discovering deeper truths of God and Christ by directing me “online” to areas of the “web” that held valuable amounts of wisdom and insight.

Possibly. I hear what you are saying but am suspicious of the Internet. Also, it depends how long we have been online for and what effect it is having on us. Has it become an addiction/ idol? Are we serving the machine more than we are serving God? Remember, Satan is the deceiver and can appear as an angel of light.

As time goes on something starts to change. I remember my early days on the net searching like you, and first forums, cool! But, something changes… (or maybe it’s just me).

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t8,

Further, the Ottoman Empire produced some great minds just as Rome and Greece did in their day. If the Middle East united into a Caliphate and coupled with strong leadership and oil revenue, who knows how far they could go.

Somehow, I doubt a Muslim group would produce an image of Allah that speaks… and worship it?

“And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak.” (Rev 13:14)

Going from memory Mohammad destroyed all images used in worship and even refused to enter his room when an image was upon the wall.
Mosques have no images.
According to CNN (Jan 9th 2015), “The prohibition again illustrating the Prophet Mohammed began as a attempt to ward off idol worship, which was widespread in Islam’s Arabian birthplace… It’s all rooted in the notion of idol worship,” says Akbar Ahmed, who chairs the Islamic Studies department at American University. “In Islam, the notion of God versus any depiction of God or any sacred figure is very strong”… The prophet himself was aware that if people saw his face portrayed by people, they would soon start worshiping him,” Ahmed says. “So he himself spoke against such images, saying ‘I’m just a man.'”

Strange that they worship a stone, though.

“So watch yourselves carefully, since you did not see any form on the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire, so that you do not act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the sky, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water below the earth. “And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.” (Deuteronomy 4:15)

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Hi Bod.

Is the throne and Jesus at God’s right side literal?

Seated at the right side regards power and authority, (ancient monarchs sat at the right side to show co-rulership of a kingdom).

Is Heaven limited to time and space, material, distance, or location?

Is God omnipresent? If God is omnipresent and Jesus is at God’s right side, is Jesus also omnipresent?

 

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Perfect love casts out all fear and although I am not perfect of my own doing, I do not fear what man can do to me compared to what God can do. Man can destroy my body, but God can destroy my soul. That said, I hope that I have a healthy fear for all that can do me harm. But not a paralyzing fear for anything.

It seems to me t8, that worldwide hatred toward Islam is growing since the latest news?

‘Paralyzing fear’ can be overcome with prayer to God for peace and strength.
Months ago I heard someone in my backyard, and then my power shut down, (lights all went out). I was terrified, however I prayed for strength, and my shaking stopped. Then I realized that everyone else lights were also out – it was a power cut and all was fine. Prayer works wonders!

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