Proclaimer replied to the topic No one could answer him in the forum Faith 9 years, 8 months ago
would you say the gospels are all in line with each other? If one says something completely different than the others what would that mean?
Bod, those who say that every word in the Bible comes from God, are wrong.
The Bible contains the Words of God (thus saith YHWH), but it also contains Psalms and Proverbs which are written mostly…[Read more]
942767 posted an update 9 years, 8 months ago
@bodhitharta Hi BD:
I hope you don’t mind me coming in on this conversation between you and Kerwin. Jonah indeed escaped death from Hell, which is spiritual separation from God, but do you really believe that he escaped physical death?
Jesus escaped eternal death. He was accused of blasphemy and died just as the scriptures state that he did,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 8 months ago
@bodhitharta
Sorry I have been gone for awhile. To answer your last post…yes, the spiritual side is conscious and goes somewhere after it leaves the flesh upon the death of the flesh.God bless you Bo!
bodhitharta replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8
To be fair, you do not believe in the Father because your book says God has no son. Thus to adhere to your book, you have to deny the Father and Son. If there is no Son, there is no Father.
I believe in God, I believe in Christ, I believe you can call people sons and daughters and children of God but those labels are not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 8 months ago
To be fair, you do not believe in the Father because your book says God has no son. Thus to adhere to your book, you have to deny the Father and Son. If there is no Son, there is no Father.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 9 years, 8 months ago
Your article should have correct info: THERE is no prophesied Islamic Mahdi in the Quran, in the Quran it only talks about the return of Jesus Christ, wouldn’t it be better to research what’s in the Quran rather than make articles based upon bad info? Here is a place you can search the Quran and have knowledge when you rep…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
@bodhitharta
Yes, I am saying that those believers that have died according to their flesh, are alive in spirit with Christ in Paradise while their bodies are decaying or have decayed already. When the passage in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says that the dead in Christ shall rise first, it is speaking about the bodies of believer’s which have decayed.…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
@bodhitharta
you said:Plus LU you keep assuming that the word Lord means divine so lets see:
There is a reason for that 🙂
John 18:36
Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my servants would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish authorities. But as it is, my kingdom is not…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
@bodhitharta
you said:Plus LU you keep assuming that the word Lord means divine so lets see:
There is a reason for that 🙂
John 18:36
Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my servants would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish authorities. But as it is, my kingdom is not…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
you asked:
So “Today I have begotten you” means there was a point in time in which he was begotten, right?
Time is relative as to who’s perspective you are referring to, man’s or God’s. The day the Son was begotten was a specific event which happened before creation. He existed before this event in a pre-begotten state.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
@bodhitharta
Hebrews 5:5 doesn’t have the word ‘father’ in the Greek so it doesn’t literally say what you quoted. Here is a more literal translation:
5So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him,
“YOU ARE MY SON,
TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”;Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
@Bodhitharta
Those that have died are no longer in Hades but in Paradise if they are believers in Jesus as the Messiah and their LORD.Also, there would be no death if there was no evil, therefore, evil has the power of death and satan is the leader of evil. Jesus took away that power. People’s bodies still die but their soul goes to Paradise to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
@bodhitharta
The devil had the power of death because he tempted Adam and Eve to disobey God. Satan brought death to mankind because death is the wages of sin. This power of death was rendered powerless by the shed blood of Jesus and His resurrection. YHVH ends people’s life and bring people back to life. That is the difference.I believe that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes, I am here
Welcome back 🙂
Jesus was created by God and not through the seed of man.
His flesh was created to contain always existent living spirit.
Now why exactly did God need to make himself a man that must be crucified?
Heb 2
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 10 months ago
@bodhitharta
You are right, God is not a man, that is why God the Son had to become a man because He wasn’t one already. He became one supernaturally. Don’t try to understand it because it isn’t something that can naturally happen. Just accept it…it was necessary to conquer the hold of sin.You say that He can’t be 100% God and 100% man. I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 10 months ago
@bodhitharta
you said:I would have to say false because Jesus was created by the Word of God and not by the seed of anyone. If he was then he is the son of Adam and not born like Adam without sin, so I ask you is Jesus the seed of Adam as he is called the seed of David and David is the seed of Adam
Christ is identified as the seed of Abraham.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 10 months ago
@bodhitharta
you said:I would have to say false because Jesus was created by the Word of God and not by the seed of anyone. If he was then he is the son of Adam and not born like Adam without sin, so I ask you is Jesus the seed of Adam as he is called the seed of David and David is the seed of Adam
Christ is identified as the seed of Abraham.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 10 months ago
@bodhitharta
Mary had within her a seed which became her firstborn, true or false?Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 11 months ago
Hi Bo, are you aware that the Hebrew word that is used for ‘seed’ is not always referring to male semen? You seem to equate it with that. Maybe I am not understanding you and what your point is.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 9 years, 11 months ago
you said:
“Seed” can only refer to a males offspring. It is a gender specific statement. Mary does not have a seed so Jesus was never the seed of Mary although indirectly he could be called the seed of Adam.
This proves you are incorrect:
Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her see…[Read more]- Load More
No I would never mind you taking part in the conversation but how do you compensate that Jesus is not guilty but he must die anyway? The scriptures don’t teach God desiring to kill innocent Human beings He saves. God saved Jesus. If Jesus died and was resurrected he wasn’t even the first Lazarus was dead longer