Psalm 146:421st Century King James Version (KJ21)

4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

If the thoughts perish that very day of death how are the spirits with Christ are they just not aware of it?

Hi DavidL

You wrote:

The Father and Son are two that are always linked together in Scripture as one – those that attack the trinity belief always emphasize their (Father/Son) individuality (which trinitarians already acknowledge), but ignore the true nature of their unity (which Arians deny)…

John 17:3 is a clear example of how some try to…

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DavidL

Now back to our truth seeking

Revelation 7:1021st Century King James Version (KJ21)

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!”

In the scripture above there is God and then there is the Lamb, who is the Lamb?

DavidL

I know your heart is in the right place in regards to loving God even though we disagree regarding doctrine so although I will continue to discuss doctrine and spiritual teachings with you there is one thing for sure:

Luke 9:50
And Jesus said unto him, “Forbid him not; for he that is not against us, is for us.”

So I will not nor can…[Read more]

Okay great! How about the spirits/souls who are not with Christ where are they?

DavidL

you can not afford to approach this topic honestly and I can understand that because your entire sobriety is at risk. you have now simply switched your addictive behavior to be strung out on a lie, you just believe this lie is more productive but as I said elsewhere, you are still the same as you were although you are trying very hard to…[Read more]

Okay, so you are definitely saying that dead bodies will rise without spirits in them and the spirits in paradise will go back in those bodies making them new bodies, right? I just want to make sure that you agree with this 100% and if you do will you admit you are wrong if I show you something in the bible that clearly shows that you are wrong,…[Read more]

So are they dead in Christ or are they alive in Christ? Or are you saying they are in Paradise with Christ as spirits and then their dead bodies will be resurrected and the spirits will rejoin their bodies?

DavidL

The more you look into it you will start to understand look even deeper:

Genesis 22:1-3English Standard Version (ESV)

The Sacrifice of Isaac

22 After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 2 He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer…[Read more]

DavidL

In that argument with the Jews the context was about Status not about birth order if you read the context you will understand, this is why God says things like:

Jeremiah 31:9
With weeping they shall come, and with pleas for mercy I will lead them back, I will make them walk by brooks of water, in a straight path in which they shall not…[Read more]

HI DavidL

You have a big problem here, you said:

Jesus Himself existed as God before Abraham was born… “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (v 56)

If you say that this means Jesus existed before Abraham and that makes him God, what to say about the fact that Jesus is saying Abraham saw the day of Jesus…[Read more]

I already quoted a Scripture to bodhitharta from Ecclesiastes that tells us humanity was created upright.”

I never doubted that humanity was created upright so why did you quote that to me?

@DavidL

each time you make a claim I give you an example and you turn blind to it: You say things like who would make such a claim as “I and my father are one” God has made a similar claim in the Bible telling Samuel:
And the LORD told him:

1 Samuel 8:7 “Listen to all that the people are saying to you;
it is not you they have rejected, but…[Read more]

DavidL

each time you make a claim I give you an example and you turn blind to it: You say things like who would make such a claim as “I and my father are one” God has made a similar claim in the Bible telling Samuel:
And the LORD told him:

1 Samuel 8:7 “Listen to all that the people are saying to you;
it is not you they have rejected, but they…[Read more]

DavidL

each time you make a claim I give you an example and you turn blind to it: You say things like who would make such a claim as “I and my father are one” God has made a similar claim in the Bible telling Samuel:
And the LORD told him:

1 Samuel 8:7 “Listen to all that the people are saying to you;
it is not you they have rejected, but they…[Read more]

DavidL

the one thing we do have in common is in believing in Hell.

You have to understand that when you call God 3 in 1 you are also calling “The only true God” which is the one you call father 1 in 3 meaning that He is not God alone He says “I AM” you say you are not “they are you” I say who is God you say this one and that one and the other.…[Read more]

DavidL

You say that you know you are born again because of changes in your heart, are you saying because you have become a little less bitter than before that you are “born again”? It’s all still right there that same sense of heaviness and all though you try to cover it the despair is still apparent.

The point is coping is not changing and…[Read more]

DavidL

If you believe that Jesus is God do you also believe this?:

Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

Was “God” only sent to the lost sheep of Israel?