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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi kerwin

    Bodhithata,

    The point is irrelevant as this world sin had to be condemned at the same time a way to escape it had to be established in order for the remnant to escape its destruction. The death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus accomplished those things and so we have the new covenant.

    There is no sense in the scripture about…[Read more]

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    Hi DavidL

    I know you like ignoring my posts but here goes anyway

    No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.” John 3:13

    Did Elijah ascend into heaven?

    2 Kings 2:11New King James Version (NKJV)

    11 Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses o…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi @AndrewAD

    A good question is why God needs blood,flesh,flour,incense,or money? Is not honest trust and repentance enough? I can’t escape the fact that some verses do seem to relate this,but the religious business needs more than that.

    New Living Translation
    Isaiah 1:11 “What makes you think I want all your sacrifices?” says the LORD. “I a…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    EDJ your Bible says that indeed but it also says the opposite

    Hi BD,

    “without the shedding of blood is no remission ” (Heb 9:22)

    B’shem
    YHVH

    Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

    Where is the bloodshed?

    Acts 3:19 “Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be bl…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Miia

    If you have a relationship with Jesus as the son of GOD, you can talk to him about anything including human pain and suffering, and there is enough of that going on. Because Jesus was a man and was like us and he knows suffering because he was tortured, crucified and died.

    ‘he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for o…

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    Matthew 16:26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

    This is interesting

    Isaiah 14:9 New International Version
    The realm of the dead below is all astir to meet you at your coming; it rouses the spirits of the departed to greet you— all those who were…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene

    You said:

    DB…….THE REASON JESUS ADDRESS THE BODY AND THE SOUL is because that is what a “living soul” or being is. Two points, one if you will look up the word used there for soul , you will see it can be interputed as spirit. But even if we say soul and body it still can mean that a “living soul” is a body with the breath of life in…

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    EDJ

    International Version
    Proverbs 19:3 A person’s own folly leads to their ruin, yet their heart rages against the LORD.

    EDJ, why are you mad at ALLAH? He created you and you must return to Him and Him alone

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    EDJ remember you went down this number path before and didn’t like the results, so let’s not get back into that foolishness

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    Psalms 49:6-7 ESV

    5Why should I fear in times of trouble,
    when the iniquity of those who cheat me surrounds me,
    6those who trust in their wealth
    and boast of the abundance of their riches?

    7Truly no man can ransom another,
    or give to God the price of his life,

    These are two separate thoughts, shall I just give you another…[Read more]

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    Hi Kerwin

    bodhitharta,

    Christians have been fracturing off since the beginning. The bible testifies of some of these fractures. The Catholic church was the Roman Empire’s half hearted attempt to unify them.

    Yes, and the prophecy in the Quran says:

    From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a g…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    You just need to tell me do you believe these verses or not, you are always saying you are scripture based but when the scriptures are shown and you don’t like them you accuse the person as if they wrote them or made them up.

    Psalms 49:7 No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them–

    Is this scripture true or false? we k…[Read more]

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    Hi BD,

    Those who only see with natural eyes constantly miss the spiritual message.

    Drinking the water Jacob offered does not prevent you from becoming thirsty.

    If you had tasted of the living water you would not have turned to another master.

    But Nick, Jacob is Israel and the firstborn of God

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    Nick,

    Thank you, I’m glad to know that you are comfortable and so am I but I do enjoy furthering my knowledge of God continuously or contributing to the knowledge pool of others. For instance you may have never known that Samaritans were part of the 12 tribes even though Jews treated them badly:

    John 4

    10Jesus answered and said unto unto her,…[Read more]

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    You’re not saying anything just small talk, if you want to correct or reprove do so…sarcasm is not of The Holy Spirit

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    Hi EDJ

    quran 69, 44-46
    YUSUFALI: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in
    Our name,
    We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And
    We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:

    Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
    The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O Aishah! I still feel
    the pain c…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD

    We truly don’t know what we do since all things are ordained,but thank God he’s gracious,merciful and full of compassion.

    Amen Brother

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    Nick

    You are not seeking truth you are seeking comfort and you are simply comfortable with the level of knowledge you have, there is nothing wrong with that that’s just life but it would be better to simply be honest and say I am not interested in learning or seeking I am satisfied with what I have but if you are satisfied with what you have and…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    I have already shown you that atonement does not need blood, will you deny the scriptures.

    “And Moses said unto Aaron, ‘Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from ; the plague is begun.’ And Aaron took as Moses…[Read more]

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