Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 01 2010,06:55)Or a product of evolution.who is to say that there were not some species that felt no pain and that they are no longer with us. They were called dinner.TimEven if we say some it does not apply because if their is “Common Ancestry” as STU believes that would at some point include ALL species.If there was no…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 27 2010,06:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 26 2010,11:14)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 26 2010,15:48)O ye of limited imagination.What if consciousness is a fundamental property of this “multi-verse”?  What if our universe is consciously evolving?  Before you dismiss the idea out of hand, read the following and report back to the c…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 28 2010,22:51)Any animal species incapable of feeling pain would never learn to avoid painful, harmful actions. That animal species would very quickly become extinct.TimYou prove my point pain or pleasure or for that matter feelings of hunger and thirst are products of purpose and reason and design. If you had to evolve to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 28 2010,16:38)Wouldn't pain serve as an advantage in that it stops you from hurting yourself badly?The advantage of having pain is only useful if it hasn't evolved.

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 28 2010,11:32)Hi Bod. Feelings can be tamed. Pain has an advantage sometimes and can stop us doing crazy things through fear of the resulting pain.Pleasure can be a temptation to sin. It depends what we take pleasure in.Yes,We have feelings that have been designed to assist us in living physically and spiritually

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 27 2010,10:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 27 2010,06:50)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)Quote Every professed Christian agrees that Jesus livedJesus DiedJesus was risen from the deadJesus had disciplesJesus was the SonJesus is Christ(I corrected that for you above.)Yep, if it stopped right there, it would be easy.God…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 27 2010,09:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 27 2010,04:54)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,23:07)So is god the author of confusion or not?StuartYes, Confusion of the arrogant and disobedientRegarding your own beliefs, that topic is covered in the thread about injustice in the koran.StuartThere is no injustice in the Quran or The Bible but…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 27 2010,07:39)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 27 2010,03:44)If you look back at the posts you will find that I said that “Virgin Birth” was possible and there is no doubt that that was made evident.The very “Honest” point I made was Virgin Birth can and does happen, you then said it can't happen in humans, I then pointed out “Honestly”…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,23:07)So is god the author of confusion or not?StuartYes, Confusion of the arrogant and disobedient

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,20:55)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)God is not the Author of confusionGenesis 11:7-91 Corinthians 1:27 StuartThat was a good comparison.

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)Quote Every professed Christian agrees that Jesus livedJesus DiedJesus was risen from the deadJesus had disciplesJesus was the SonJesus is Christ(I corrected that for you above.)Yep, if it stopped right there, it would be easy.God calls us and opens our eyes, suddenly the Bible has real meaning, we cant put it…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,20:47)Quote This thread is not for his reading really, it is for others to understand his tactics and explain how non-members have reacted to them, although it does also make specific points about a particular claim, that he has stated that islam should be heading towards unity You see it is really you that are being…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,20:32)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 26 2010,17:51)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,16:09)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 26 2010,14:19)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 25 2010,09:59)I told you before that some use dishonesty and manipulation and mistake it for reasonableness.Like they told you at…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,17:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 26 2010,14:28)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:23)I'd be interested in any arguments against including these guys as “christians”:http://www.atheists-for-jesus.com/The only obvious thing is the literal point that they call him Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus Christ, so they would not be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,16:09)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 26 2010,14:19)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 25 2010,09:59)I told you before that some use dishonesty and manipulation and mistake it for reasonableness.Like they told you at RD.net:“Bodhitharta, you're dishonesty is really incredible. That you accuse other…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 26 2010,15:48)O ye of limited imagination.What if consciousness is a fundamental property of this “multi-verse”?  What if our universe is consciously evolving?  Before you dismiss the idea out of hand, read the following and report back to the class:My Big TOE TrilogyOnce again Consciousness would not be subject to the m…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2010,14:38)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:44)Atheism is the answer to only some of the world's ills.Oh yeah. It changed your life. You are now a much better man than all those who believe in God.Thank God you are an atheist. It makes you a decent person and one with very high morals.The reality is that atheism denies that there…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:23)I'd be interested in any arguments against including these guys as “christians”:http://www.atheists-for-jesus.com/The only obvious thing is the literal point that they call him Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus Christ, so they would not be 'christ-ians'.They are anti-Paulians more than anything.StuartAtheists cannot be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,13:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 25 2010,09:59)I told you before that some use dishonesty and manipulation and mistake it for reasonableness.Like they told you at RD.net:“Bodhitharta, you're dishonesty is really incredible. That you accuse other posters of dishonesty is ironic in the extreme.”andBodhi, you truly are … t…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 25 2010,12:46)Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 24 2010,10:31)It's interesting that because you were found to be lacking in education about the things you hold close to your heart that you then say silly things about others, but you should ask yourself what does your being wrong about so many issues here have anything to do with me?I…[Read more]