Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2012,13:57)Ok BD, that's all nice and such but there are times to go away from the stone throwers. Jesus did this also. It's not my time to die. I am not judging, just distancing myself.Anyway, how would you know that an eternal son couldn't become flesh?  You said that scriptures don't say that the Son is eternal. He…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,08:41)bdQuote Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2012,17:31) Yes, they must not only respect those who question their belief they must embrace the very act of someone questioning their beliefs because it is the very cornerstone of educating someone about what exactly it is you believe in and why. faith is a gift of God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 08 2012,15:41)Well BD I think that I can kick someone out of the thread. I did make the thread and invited you and him to the thread and not the other way around so it is my thread. I believe that I have some control here especially when I'm being belittled and criticized over and over by someone that I invited. If I…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 08 2012,09:02)BD,Correction, death only had mastery over Jesus because He made it possible by emptying Himself and becoming man and laying down His life, allowing death to have mastery. Before that He could not have died. Death had mastery because it was allowed to by Jesus.God the Father did not empty Himself and lay down…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 08 2012,09:06)Mike,Please stop posting in this thread or I will just have to add another thread here in the debate section to discuss things with BD where you were never invited to. Invited guests should leave when asked to and I have asked you to leave this thread several posts ago, Mike.If you want to make another thread…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2012,07:53)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 05 2012,19:40)So the inheritance is eternal life? Didn't Jesus have eternal life already? If Jesus inherited internal life how could he then be God?Good point, Asana.  We are co-heirs of God along with Christ.  Jesus was the first among many brothers.In other words, whatever it is t…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 05 2012,05:48)Hi Devo,You said:”Firstly, your god is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”According to Francis Edwards Peters, “The Qur'an insists, Muslims believe, and historians affirm that Muhammad and his followers worship the same God as the Jews (29:46). The Koran's Allah is the same Creator God who covenanted…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2012,13:44)BD,A righteous man can not die for the sins of all mankind, even for the sins of his dearest child. That is an established truth in scripture. What would be a more perfect sacrifice than for one who is equally perfect to the Father, the beloved of the Father, to be given over to the abuse He was to face and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2012,13:44)BD,A righteous man can not die for the sins of all mankind, even for the sins of his dearest child. That is an established truth in scripture. What would be a more perfect sacrifice than for one who is equally perfect to the Father, the beloved of the Father, to be given over to the abuse He was to face and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2012,00:41)BD,Good morning! I love this time of year!! I bet the trees are pretty up north where you are.I was thinking about you and some others as I read this article. I thought it was well written and addresses many of the questions that you have been asking. I will just post an excerpt here and give you a link to the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2012,19:12)BD,Christians are joint heirs of life eternal. This is not a position.1 Peter 3And you men, in this way dwell with your wives by knowledge, and hold them in honor as weaker vessels, lest you be subverted in your prayers, because they also inherit the gift of eternal life with you.So the inheritance is eternal…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2012,12:10)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2012,17:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,16:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 30 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,17:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2012,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2012,16:17)So, Mike, can you say Yeshua is the LORD JEHOVAH?Sorry Kathi,My God is named…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,06:04)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2012,16:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2012,06:52)Jesus never said the disciples would be able to do greater things THAN HE CAN DO.  He only said they'd be able to do greater things THAN THE THINGS THEY'D SEEN HIM DO.John 14:12 (KJ) 12 Verily, verily I say unto you, he that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 02 2012,11:25)BD,By denying that Mike belittles me makes you part of the problem. Btw, does the term Muslim offend you, are you not a Muslim?A key element in this area of verbal abuse will no doubt be confrontation of the abuser. It's important for you to realize that confrontation is a biblical principle. Jesus taught…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2012,18:34)The Quran reports Jesus as having comein the flesh as the Word of God, so according to your own logic Islam is of God

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 30 2012,14:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,16:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2012,17:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2012,15:53)Do you really think that belittling others pleases God?I believe God is pleased when I put you on the hot seat, and make you stand and defend the twistings…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,16:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 30 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,17:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2012,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2012,16:17)So, Mike, can you say Yeshua is the LORD JEHOVAH?Sorry Kathi,My God is named Jehovah.  His Son is named Jesus – not Jehovah the second, or Jehovah Jr.And…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2012,06:52)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 28 2012,19:04)Why is Jesus saying that they can and even greater things can anyone actually do anything greater than God?Jesus never said the disciples would be able to do greater things THAN HE CAN DO.  He only said they'd be able to do greater things THAN THE THINGS THEY'D SEEN…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,05:01)BD,you asked:Quote Do the scriptures tell us there is a difference in the begotten sons of God?Also are these begotten sons also begotten gods?Jesus is the only begotten Son/only begotten God, not regenerated to be a son but a son by nature, and the others that are regenerated/born again begotten sons, are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,14:44)BD,you ask:Quote So these other begotten sons can also do what Jesus did?Now, because Jesus came as a man, died as a man, and returned to the Father, He can empower men who are considered begotten sons (begotten because they have been born again by the Spirit) to do those types of works Jesus did while He…[Read more]