Quote (2besee @ Nov. 30 2012,18:57)I do see what you are saying. Can you tell me more about this spiritual Jihad? I remember reading about that years ago but I can't remember what exactly, and it is never the same when you read things off websites, it is better to actually ask someone in person (or should say over – over the net!)And thank you. I…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 02 2012,16:23)Bod, how do you view John 1:1?Sorry, I didn't see this until now, As I said Jesus was/is a spirit that proceeded from God a Word from God and the word became flesh.The Word is not Jesus the Word is Spirit and that Spirit became Flesh/Jesus.You see it is the same with all of the creations of God, God said “let…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 10 2012,15:47)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,09:29)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 24 2012,21:30)I guess this is one dead debate.  Would anyone like to speculate why t8 apparently didn't want to be involved, even though he started it?StuartIdon't know ifanyone else can evn join this debate otherwise I certainly would like to engage.What if…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2012,14:26)Bo, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew Him as God Almighty. They did not know to call Him by the name Jehovah. They referred to Him as God Almighty or Lord and probably other names but I don't see where they called His name YHWH even though it was YHWH that had been appearing to them.I believe that both the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 24 2012,21:30)I guess this is one dead debate.  Would anyone like to speculate why t8 apparently didn't want to be involved, even though he started it?StuartIdon't know ifanyone else can evn join this debate otherwise I certainly would like to engage.What if one took the position that God does not exist which is reasonable since…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,14:12)Bo, Abraham and Noah obeyed and believed in YHWH and since YHWH is both the Father and the Son, they did depend on Jesus, YHWH the Son, for their salvation and they depended on the Father also for their salvation. They knew Him as YHWH. Abraham even has a face to face discussion with Him in Gen 18.Hi Kathi …[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 06 2012,19:37)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 06 2012,15:02)Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 01 2012,00:36)That sort of thing really disturbs me for many reasons.  I have a nephew with autism, and he takes everything literally.His mother is very religious and doesn't understand what some of her teachings could do to this child.TimA person is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,11:58)Bo,you asked:Quote Dd God take away the sinsof anyone before Jesus was born?Yes.Okay, I am glad we both agree. So Jesus was important for the age/time he came in then, right?Abraham or say Noah was not dependent on Jesus for salvation, right?

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,03:24)Quote So was the idea of forgiveness planned before the man was tempted? If So what is the function of the messiah?Yes. The Messiah was the intended one through whom forgiveness that leads to eternal life would come.Quote I believe the Messiah leads men to forgiveness and repentence. Were men able to be…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 01 2012,00:36)That sort of thing really disturbs me for many reasons.  I have a nephew with autism, and he takes everything literally.His mother is very religious and doesn't understand what some of her teachings could do to this child.TimA person is only judged upon his understanding this is why the #1 type of person that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2012,06:31)Bo,The notion that we may need a savior messiah was planned by the wisdom of God before the foundation of the world, so the possibility of man being deceived/tempted was known.So was the idea of forgiveness planned before the man was tempted? If So what is the function of the messiah?I believe the Messiah…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2012,06:14)Bo,Hello! I hope your holiday was refreshing. Sorry that I haven't responded in several days. I was out of town and did not spend too much time online.you asked:Quote am asking ou what was lost? He didn't lose his life if it is eternal so what was lost?It seems to me that one of the things He gave up was His…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2012,09:24)Hi Bod.When you first started off on this forum were you a Christian or a Muslim?I generally refer to myself simply as someone who submits to the will of God.I don't care if someone is a Christian, Jew or Muslim it is really all about their FAITH to me.In the days of Jesus some had enough faith to accept him…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2012,01:20)B,tharta.So called christians of which they are the majority,kiss anything, statues feet,crosses,pictures.But we should not follow after their works,for there are true christians of which are only a few.(the little flock).We should not kiss anything material,used as religious symbols.wakeup.I agree but I do…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 29 2012,23:35)Quote Oh , Okay makes more sense but where is it said that Jesus Christ was the prince of peace? He said he didn't come to bring peace….just askingIsaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 27 2012,09:31)Quote You say the same day ED says 54 days afterwards, what's the difference you both believed he returned a second time, right?BodhithartaActually, the scriptures don't state “second coming”.  It's just a term we use to state and acknowledge that Christ already came the first time as prophesied and…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,01:05)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2012,12:25)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 24 2012,01:04)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 23 2012,07:03)Quote (2besee @ Nov. 22 2012,22:06)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 15 2012,18:54)4. Do you celebrate christmas?Do you celebrate Christmas? Just wondering.No I stopped celebrating Christmas long before ever…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,01:15)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,01:36)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2012,12:50)So what you are saying is his second coming was in the same day he left?Hi BD,Jesus second coming was in spirit form 54 days after the crucifixion.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Edj.So he will come the third time to…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 24 2012,20:46)Quote So what you are saying is his second coming was in the same day he left?BodiThe “second coming” has not happened yet. We still await.What I am saying is that ON THE SAME DAY Christ rose from the dead,he ascended to his Father, and was back again to meet with apostles by evening time, THAT SAME DAY.If you…[Read more]

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 24 2012,19:27)Thanks GuysNo other religion or faith can get me to GodSalvation is only through Jesus. Of this I am certainMy situation is one of wrestling against sinful habits. Failure to overcome these has led me to despairHow can I be a christian and still do these thing, is a question in my mindI pray  for victory but I…[Read more]