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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    You don’t differentiate between being filled with the Spirit of God and having the Divine nature (being God)

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(deity) (Colossians 2:8,9)

    In Stephen there was no fullness of divinity.
    It is one thing to be filled with the Holy Spirit and another to have the…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

     

    THE SON OF MAN

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    Matt.8
    And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
    Matt.9
    But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine hou…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    In you or in me does not live
    the fullness of divinity.
    In Jesus YES. It is another thing to be filled with the Holy Spirit; in his very essence Jesus is God; the reason is that HE IS THE OWN SON OF GOD.
    ON THE OTHER HAND, HE IS NOT “A” SON OF MAN BUT “THE” SON OF MAN.

    When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    Unitarianism which denies the divinity and humanity of Christ is doomed to total annihilation.
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(deity) (Colossians 2:8,9)

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    You’re saying nonsense
    you are dishonest and you tire me out.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.(John17:5)

    You see well That Jesus was WITH His Father in Heaven BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Lexicon :: Strong’s G1096 – ginomai

    γίνομαι
    Transliteration
    ginomai (Key)
    Pronunciation
    ge’-no-mi (Key)
    Part of Speech
    verb
    Root Word (Etymology)
    A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb
    Greek Inflections of γίνομαι 
    mGNT
    670x in 81 unique form(s) TR
    676x in 87 unique form(s) LXX
    1,703x in 103 unique form(s)γεγενημένον — 2…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

     

    Gene

    In John 8:58 Jesus makes it clear that he existed BEFORE ABRAHAM
    THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE
    SO DON’T THINK THAT I BELIEVE YOUR FALSE REASONING.
    YES JESUS IS BIGGER THAN ABRAHAM
    1- IN AGE
    2- IN IMPORTANCE
    THE BIBLE IS FULL OF QUOTES ON THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST AND HIS PREEXISTENCE.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    When you’re an old man … it’s hard to turn back …
    It’s easier to break an atom than to break a prejudice

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    Yes verse 53 it is about the importance
    but in verse 57,58 of the age …. Also it is clear for me that Jesus existed long before Abraham.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene
    JOHN 8 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    GREATER

    meizwn
    meizon
    mide’-zone
    irregular comparative of megaV – megas 3173; larger (literally or figuratively, specially, in age):–elder, greater(-est), more.

     

     

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Edj

    you

    Berean said:
    The Father speaking to the Son
    Why are you adding to God’s Word what it does not say?

    Me

    Edj

    If you read carefully the text of Hebrews 1 from the beginning, you will realize that indeed, it is indeed the Father who speaks to the Son in the verses that I have quoted.

    I put in red what concerns God (the Father)
    Maybe I f…[Read more]

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    They don’t BELEIVE THAT He IS

    The Son of God

    a son yes

    But THE SON ….NO

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    it is a branch of Unitarianism: they do not believe in the divinity of Christ

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Amen

    The Father speaking to the Son

    And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
    They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
    And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    You know I don’t believe in your biblical interpretations. So no need to try to show me that “prin” means something else in John 8:58 and elsewhere than what the king James bible expresses

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Transliteration
    prin (Key)
    Pronunciation
    pre’n (Key)
    Part of Speech
    adverb
    Root Word (Etymology)
    From πρό (G4253)
    Greek Inflections of πρίν 
    mGNT
    13x in 1 unique form(s) TR
    14x in 2 unique form(s) LXX
    28x in 1 unique form(s)Πρὶν — 3x
    πρὶν — 11x
    Dictionary Aids
    Vine’s Expository Dictionary: View Entry
    KJV Translation Count — Total: 14x
    Th…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    None of the texts mentioned (in 867191) has the meaning of “more important”

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Strong’s Number G4250 matches the Greek πρίν (prin),
    which occurs 14 times in 14 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

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     Mat 1:18
    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before G4250 they came together, she was found with child of the…

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