Gene

That God the Father is the only true God is not disputed by anyone on this thread ….
but we are debating about Jesus, and he himself told us that he came from above that he came down from heaven from where HE WAS BEFORE with God His FATHER….

Gene

Your answer shows Once again that you are evading the truth … You deny the divinity of Jesus

A uniquely human Jesus cannot save humanity.
In truth Jesus Christ is divine-human … But you do not believe it.

So did Jesus come down from heaven or not?

Yes or no. ???

Gene

Carmel…..Jesus said this also,

Matt. 23:9….And call no man your father upon the earth“for one is your Father, which is in heaven”.Seems we and Jesus have the same Father, so are we God’s too?,  tell us Carmel are you a God, seeing Jesus said  you and Jesus have the same Father, according to Jesus……

Me

“for one is your Father, which…[Read more]

I do not beleive what You Say.

For me , you have been deceived by false teachers and therefore you are trying to deceive others by preaching a false Christ.

Christ IS not juste a man

HE IS DIVINO/HUMAN LIKE SAY PAUL

Gene

It is true, as a man Jesus cannot do anything of himself, the Father works in him ….
And in the beginning Jesus worked for the creation of angels and worlds according to the will of the Father and by the DIVINE Power inherited from the Father (JOHN1: 1-3)
FOR IN HIM ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY LIVES BODILY COLOSSIANS 2: 9

Hi To all

Daily meditation

Wednesday 07 July 2021,

A presence that inspires
And behold, I am with you every day, until the end of the world.
Matthew 28:20 b.

As he ascended to the Father, Christ did not leave his disciples helpless. Its representative, the Holy Spirit, and the spirits destined to serve, the heavenly angels, are sent to those…[Read more]

Gadam

You forget or do not know that the divine nature (SUBSTANCE) of the Father has no beginning, and IT IS THE SAME FOR THAT OF THE BORN SON And therefore his filiality with the Father HAS A BEGINNING (Today I am begotten (Heb. 1) BUT NOT ITS SUBSTANCE …. THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE.

Gadam

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Me

Arius believed that Jesus was begotten by the Father. He was right, but he (the papists) was falsely accused of saying that Jesus was created.

JW Believes He Is A Created Angel, And This Is FALSE

Gadam

You can not win this unending debates with so called non-trinitarians who make Jesus a god and a divine being as the NT writers created much havoc to their readers. Hope you will find this truth one day. 

Me

Yes Jesus IS a divine being AND one day you will see that it is the truth if you are sincere.

Jesus IS divino/human like Paul Say…[Read more]

Gene

Jésus IS not a CREATED Angel but the creator, (Col.1)prince, cheaf OF the Angels…(Rev.12;Mat.24)

The celestials angels are under His direction. (Rev.19)

See Mathiew 24

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of…[Read more]

Mike

If for you Jesus only created a whip, well you have to worry …

@ Mike
….all things were created by him(Jésus), and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he(Jesus) is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 
Amen!

Mike

Jesus is a god because he is one of God’s spirit sons.

Me

What You Say IS not written in The Bible….

BUT IT IS WRITTEN

AND THE WORD WAS GOD 

NOT A GOD 

THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS THE FATHER

AND JESUS IS THE
ONLY 
BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

NOT CREATED BUT
BEGOTTEN
 

 Gene

Proclaimer…..the word of God, “became”

became……came to pass , ……etc

Never is such language used to say that a prophecy comes true. It’s an excuse that Satan made a long time ago, since he no longer wants to bow down to the Son of God and God Himself.

JESUS IS GOD BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. 

Mike

Hebrews 1 shows us the superiority of Christ over the angels (messengers)
why is Christ superior or greater?

– HE IS GOD and IS the creator of angels and also their adorable leader.

Pau To Hebrews :

Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from…[Read more]

Gadam

The only difference is they only believe that Jesus created by God first. Hope brother Gene notice the difference. 

Me
This is not Jesus Christ created BY God first 
This IS :   GOD CREATED ALL THINGS 
BY JESUS CHRIST  
God bless you BY Jesus Christ

Gadam

I promise you BEFORE GOD, BEFORE JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY ANGELS THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT INTERPRETATION.

God bless you

Mike

Very good question…..

My answer IS

GOD CREATED BY HIS SON BECAUSE

ALL IS FROM GOD THE FATHER(the Son too) AND BY HIS SON…

…..one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

I’m sure you will one day understand this: OF WHOM ….. BY WHOM

THE FATHER: OF…[Read more]

The SON OF GOD (named by John“THE WORD”) WAS WITH THE GOD IN THE BIGINNING AND HE WAS GOD.

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM ; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE.